Go back to Trudeau-Lewis pre-1973. It didn’t end well for the NDP. I see them and the Libs just getting clobbered in the next election. Libs will maintain their Laurentian seats but the NDP—they’re fucked.
Socialists aren’t supposed to be crass opportunists for peanuts. 
Jack and Ed certainly weren’t.
Dental care isn’t peanuts for lots of people
Why go back to 73? Why not just go back to Layton? Or go back to the last Sikh candidate for PM?
The fact is that the NDP is getting policy wins that help people. What will they get from having an election now?
For Canadians on this site, I wanted to say that one of the very best books I’ve read this year on the political and economic malaise in Canada is former journalist Jonathan Manthorpe’s On Canadian Democracy (Cormorant, 2024). Despite the rather plain title, it’s a polemic against the culture of political celebrity and the neoliberal drift Canada has taken over the past forty years.
Manthorpe, as some forumosans may know, is the author of two other books of interest to those of us in Taiwan: Forbidden Nation: A History of Taiwan (Palgrave, 2005), a journalistic / popular history of the nation; and the utterly sobering Claws of the Panda: Beijing’s Campaign of Influence and Intimidation in Canada (Cormorant, 2019; updated in 2024 with details on the fall out from the Meng Wanzhou debacle, the detentions of the Michaels in the PRC, and the lessons—still apparently unlearned in Canada—from how Beijing handled the COVID crisis it unleashed on the world).
Put otherwise, Manthorpe is an interesting guy to read, in some ways quite conservative in his defence of Canadian values and parliamentary tradition, and also clearly disgusted (here I am referring to his latest book) at the neoliberal excesses messing around with peoples’ lives in Canada and the fecklessness of the Canadian government in (not) addressing those excesses.
I recommend it to anyone interesting in how Canada got into this mess, and—here is the tricky part—how it might get out.
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Apparently King Charles the turd is the biggest landowner in Canada; the planet, actually.
Anyway,
https://x.com/justintrudeau/status/1828098303596044512?s=
We’re reducing the number of low-wage, temporary foreign workers in Canada. The labour market has changed. Now is the time for our businesses to invest in Canadian workers and youth.
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Wait, this one surprises you after Rob Ford? Come on now, this isn’t new. At least this one looks like something interesting. Especially when drunk.
I voted for Layton once upon a time.
Selling your soul for universal dental care? People with decent jobs have it through extended health (I always had it through Pacific Blue Cross). Poor children and seniors already got it before the national program. He’s helped out the working poor have shiny white teeth but fucked them over 1000X over through supporting Trudeau and housing.
Layton and Broadbent were so much better NDP leaders.
Good guy, a bit like Tim Walz v. 2024 without the Red Bull. And with his Quebec background, he widened the tent. It was an interesting moment; too bad it didn’t last long.
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Kind of a no-brainer
Calling him “sell out Singh” is such a Trumpy move. PP has yet to demonstrate he can do anything other than talk shit about politicians who are more successful than he is
It does look like that’s PP’s playbook doesn’t it.
He’d do well though to remember that governing nationally in Canada as a Conservative is a tricky matter. How to keep a bigger tent of people together (including people in Quebec) to not only gain but retain a majority of seats? Throughout my life, it’s always looked like a bit of a magic show when Conservatives are able to do so, before the house of cards finally falls apart.
Put more bluntly: Bitchy trasher of popular social programs, beware!
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BC is a mix of left and right with an NDP premier at the moment (Conservatives look like they might win provincially). Even with this polarized environment of left and right, Trudeau’s popularity is the lowest in BC that the rest of Canada, even Alberta.
The Cons could nominate the dead choda of Ho Chi Minh’s momma—it would still win…Trudeau is that unpopular.
Ya, he gives the word “Liberal” a bad name. So did Campbell. BC had a few issues with Liberal party politicians, not so much with being liberal.
Federal liberals, I don’t think anyone even knows what the fuck they are classified as anymore. They should probably be sued for false advertising for using the word Liberal as their name.
Don’t disagree, which is why it should always have been a NDP-Conservative two party system. And could have been a few elections ago…but the panty-suburban-soccer mom vote liked Golden Boy!
I agree the liberals can jsut die a quick death and go away. Frankly, so cna the Torries.
I disagree that we need a 2 party system. Hats bad news in my opinion.
I normally vote either green or NDP, neither of whih are allowed in 2 party systems. If I was American, I would be voting independent or libertarian, depending on the people at the time. Sort of how Kennedy seems better than Biden or Trump, ndp seems better than your pony boy or the reincarnation of harper on the right. We need 3rd parties. people need to start voting in what they want rather than voting out what they hate [more]. It’s exactly why it’s a shit show, both sides are shit and the sheep gobble them up.
This chat didn’t go to well.
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1830307702142087287?t=A1M9a_PJqb5Dn_stztuOfg&s=19
Pretty impressive how he handled that obviously hostile voter, though.
Oohhh. So hostile.
You probably wanted voter to kiss T’s butt.
Kindly remove me from these man on man fantasies you have going on, and stick to the topic
You said the guy was hostile.
You obviously are biased. He was quite polite.
Well, the NDP is gaining some wisdom after all.
NDP announcing it will tear up governance agreement with Liberals | CBC News
