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Didn’t stop Pappy from doing business with them during the Cultural Revolution when so many foreigners were detained. Israel Epstein - Wikipedia

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Yeah as opposed to dealing with CKC’s regime on Taiwan, where NO ONE was killed or detained. Please!

Guy

And that awful Nixon fellow shaking hands with Mao.

Politics is a cynical game. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and business is business.

In the 1960s, a 41-year-old Pierre Trudeau visited Communist China during the great famine and co-wrote a book hailing Maoism and denying the existence of a national food policy that killed 38 million people. White terror, as unfortunate as it was, was a little less brutal in terms of numbers, wouldn’t you agree?

With a family history of being soft on leftist authoritarians (skin diving with Castro comes to mind), why the outcry over two? I think it is horrible about them being detained, but didn’t they consider such outcomes when they detained Meng by kowtowing to the US? Justin went from saying China was his favorite form of government to detaining someone for the US who was suspected of evading Iran sanctions. Canada has a history of playing negative roles in such US renditions Maher Arar - Wikipedia

One could have/can support(ed) the War in Iraq, hardening of sanctions with Iran, etc, but oppose such political prosecutions (aren’t there lots of white collar crime or sanction evading by US companies?). Choosing to go after Meng was a US-China joust and poor little Canada got bruised.

Cite?

Agree on that.

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Should have said most admired but was just using the socialist NDP response :smile::
The Liberal leader was asked which nation he admired most. He responded: “There’s a level of admiration I actually have for China. Their basic dictatorship is actually allowing them to turn their economy around on a dime.”

Tom Mulcair: “I’m not a big fan of dictatorships, I rather prefer democracies,” NDP Leader Tom Mulcair said at a campaign event in Toronto Friday. “I don’t understand how someone can say that their favourite government is a dictatorship.”
Trudeau under fire for expressing admiration for China’s ‘basic dictatorship’ | CTV News

This was an enlightening interview.

“There’s a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say, ‘We need to go green … we need to start investing in solar.

They can. They don’t, but they can.
This was a good response to the event:

In a Facebook post, NDP Deputy Leader Megan Leslie said the event “isn’t just demeaning, it’s stupid.”
“Stupid stupid stupid. All issues are women’s issues. And you know what, we can wear pants and drive cars and vote and have jobs and we can have political opinions. The economy is a women’s issue, Justin. Health Care is a women’s issue, Justin. And you know what? Keystone XL ahem is a women’s issue.”

Sucks for home buyers in Vancouver and Toronto, but otherwise the inflow of capital must be good for Canada. Not just the cash, but also the social capital.

Some helpful analysis, this time in today’s Taipei Times, on the recent “trials” of the two Michaels in the PRC:

Guy

Its not that great when its hollow and temporary like that. Rich people in a country trying to get their money out of their corrupt shit hole country (without being seized or going to jail) causing your country massive inflation isnt what most would call a good or sustainable situation. It actually qquit terrible in regards to fleeing chibese, mkney laundering and real estate in western canada. my house tripled in 8 years, but im not so naive to view that as a good thing. My taxes have also gone up 50% and they have taken away more public services. Net loss in my opinion.

fortunately for me, i don’t have the money to buy a house!

These days, neither does anybody else.

It appears that hostage-taking works…
Trudeau government threatens Halifax Security Forum over proposed Taiwan award

Well to be fair, receiving the “John McCain Prize for Leadership in Public Service” (however laudable this may be) did not seem to help the people of Hong Kong, last year’s recipient. I don’t think Tsai should lose too much sleep over having this award yanked away from her.

Still shame on Ottawa for acting out Beijing’s wishes. They think this will help the Michaels, but it will simply confirm to Beijing that Ottawa can be played.

Guy

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Still shame on Ottawa for acting out Beijing’s wishes. They think this will help the Michaels, but it will simply confirm to Beijing that Ottawa can be played.

Exactly. The threat to pull all funding for the group is a bit over the top, as well.

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Yep- they should stay out of the decision. OTOH, since they are major funders of the award, I can see Beijing thinking Canada endorses the prize, given that the Canadian Department of Defense is one of the two founding partners; the other being a different Canadian government department…

But what should Ottawa’s priority be? Should they worry about whether China thinks they can be played or should they worry about getting the two Michaels out? Should they sacrifice the two Michaels to show they can be tough on China?

I reckon they should play the game until the situation with the two Michaels (and the situation with Meng Wanzhou (sp?) ) is figured out without worrying about whether China thinks they can be played.

Does it really matter what China thinks if Ottawa can get the two Michaels out? Or at least have a better chance if Ottawa avoids pissing China off?