Iâm out of that age range, but I voted yes anyway, having already enlisted and served during the Cold War. In 1983, war with the Soviet Union wasnât a matter of âifâ, it was a matter of âwhenâ.
I donât see why I shouldnât be able to re-enlist. The equipment weâre using is much older.
I, like many others, wouldnât want to walk into the hailstorm just yet. But if you think about it; Canada if asked, may have to draft its soldiers. Weâll probably train on American equipment (happens all the time - exchange programs) and deploy.
Itâs gettin bad out there and we might have to face this reality sooner than later.
Since that war didnât actually happen, surely it was a matter of if, not when.
I mean, things could have turned out differently, but isnât that the definition of âifâ?
Iâm too old, ( and whatâs this 35 stuff- the US Army has already raised it up to 42) but I come down strongly on the side of⌠it depends.
WWII- definitely- just like dear old Dad.
WWI- âConscription if necessary but not necessarily conscription.â Probably not. Both my grandfathers fought in that one, one in the trenches, one torpedoed on convoy runs; both came later to oppose it.
Korea?- Just war, but not existential from Canadaâs point of view- would have gone if drafted, wouldnât have volunteered.
Spanish Civil War? If Iâd been around at the time, probably- my old man tried, luckily for me he got caught and sent home(only seventeen)
WWIII- the Showdown- would have been incinerated before had the chance, but, yes. (I say that now, at the time I probably would have ended up in an internment camp).
Monster, you say itâs getting bad out there? War with whom?
Al-Qaeda? Small gang of murderous thugs in the mountains- do we invade Pakistan to winkle them out?
Iraq? Jump in the middle of a sectarian war between Shiites and Sunnis? No thanks
North Korea? They may, if pushed hard enough, launch a war against the South- is that who you had in mind?
The only other two countries which might be cosidered enough of a threat that regular armies are needed would be Syria and Iran.
Would I enlist in a war to invade Syria or Iran to overthrow their governments and occupy their countries? No and no.
WWIII is going to be the Islamic world vs the rest of us. Its already started and will probably end in a nuclear holocaust. I hope Iâm wrong but probably not. The participation of Canada is iffy because of the large influence of US draft dodgers, peaceniks, and isolationists on the Canadian people. As usual, people want to delay taking action untill it is too late to prevent a delorious outcome.
Well, given Bushâs willingness to see Pakistan develop 30-40 nuclear weapons a year, thatâs suddenly become a lot more possible.
Can you name one US draft dodger etc, that has an influence on the Canadian people? They came to Canada because we were like that; weâre not like that because they came.
Stop talking in useless generalities like âthe Islamic worldâ- Muslims are 20% of the worldâs population, mostly underdeveloped, undereducated and poor. The vast majority are not extreme fundamentalists, in spite of the best efforts of the Bushistas to push them that way.
The Kaiser, Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, (to a lesser extent) Imperial Japan, 50 years from now, China- those are threats.
The point I was making is to everyone at the time that war was inevitable, but I enlisted anyway.
Iâm afraid Shin Gua may be right on the money. Hereâs how I see things playing out: Iran will complete its nuclear weapon research. It will supply Hezbollah or some other group of Islamic wingnuts with a tactical nuclear device.
Scenario A: The wingnuts will use it on Israel. Israel go ape-shit. All Hell will break loose.
Scenario B: The wingnuts will use it on the USA. The Americans will go ape-shit. All Hell will break loose.
Either way the Muslims will get the worst of whatever is to follow. Oh, and Bill Graham will trot before the camera to babble some incoherent nonsense about Canadian values.
I use useless generalities like âthe Islamic worldâ because the term expresses my view. Who will the non fundementalist Muslims support in case of a general war against the extremist Muslims: you the Jew, Christian or pagan against fellow Muslims, even though extremists? If you think you, your education in logic and ability to differentiate between rheteric and fact is in question.
The question seems rather vague & open-ended.
Enlist? In what branch? To go fight where?
Would I re-enlist to go fight in the Mid East or Asia? Not on your life. Too old & fat. Reflexes a tad too slow. Would I serve in an Auxiliary role? In say, in logistics, my speciality? Without a doubt.
Yet, also, i would no doubt weigh upon just how much said military action would be in actual defence of Canadaâs interests. Unless of course, weâre talking about Sharia. Then I believe it would be my sacred duty as a pagan infidel idolater to resist itâs implementation.
Mmm youâd have all that depleted Uranium to look forward to, while the slugs in office plan your next move getting fat off the profitsâŚ
If you were injured on the field, good look with your medical assistance. Theyâd want to cut you off ASAP.
Good look with your body armour.
etc etc etc.
Snitch on a fellow soldier who you just saw rape and murder a young girl, watch your hide for a stray bulllet etc etc
Become a brainwashed goon who has to do what he is told or else.
Written almost 100 years ago and it could have been written last week.
War is a racket by Smedley Darlington Butler:
âI spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902â1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested.â
If people refused to enlist and fight these wars, there wouldnât be any.
Wasnât to me, and I suspect neither was it to most people at the time, though there was a lot of tension- thank goodness Reagan had the sense not to listen to people like Cheney.
Man, if I see you in the supermarket, decide you are my enemy and procede to smack the shit out of you, and you fight back; does that make you a warmonger and me a hero? :roflmao:
Why donât you get your shit together??? (wear it if the shoe fits)