George W. Bush. failed to even say sorry. 
One word but the unbelievably self-righteous shit couldnât even do that. And Fred, you ask how one becomes so anti-Bush?
Would it not be more pertinent to ask how one comes to support him. I respect your Republican leanings but suspect that with a free choice Bush would not be your first choice as Republican president. Or have I completely overestimated you?
I am glad Bush did not apologize. The people directly responsible have and give the Arab culture, it is not right nor appropriate for Bush to grovel. We will deal with the matter fairly and justly and that should go some way to ameliorating this terrible situation, but come on, compared with the Arab world this is nothing. Abuse like this happens when you get traffic tickets.
As to Bush, he was not my first choice during the first primary back in 2000 but I have grown to respect him greatly. I think that many people underestimate his commonsense, intelligence and most importantly his incredible determination and perserverence. If you want to take a look at his polar opposite, see the thread on Jimmy Carter, the Leftâs great hero. The one who has never apologized once for the string of disasters resulting from his great ineptitude. I have my theories about him but they are far too nasty to share on this forum. They stem from what would make him so filled with self hatred that he would want to mutilate himself and our great nation. He is a sick son of a bitch and those with any intelligence see him for the incredible fucked up disaster that he was. I would like to see that man burn in hell for the millions of people that he has caused to suffer.
Compare Carterâs record with Reagan who determinedly stared down the Soviet Union so today I can sit here (unlike my student days) and meet anyone I want in Russia, go anywhere I want and see prosperous hardworking happy people with the latest fashions, listening to the latest music, getting on with their lives. While under Carter, Russia and the Soviets were coddled and this resulted in one of the greatest period of oppression in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union.
Now, Reagan and Bush I: Freed 300 million and freed Europe from the threat of nuclear annihilation.
Bush II: Afghanistan 25 million and Iraq 25 million and perhaps Libyaâs 5 million and perhaps movement in other nations that will lead to 70 million in Iran and 20 million in Saudi Arabia and 70 million in Egypt and 30 million in Morocco and 30 million in Algeria and 10 million in Tunisia. It may all add up to a glorious sum of happy people living in a democratic environment working hard to enjoy life like the rest of us. Why not? Go Bush and that is why I admire him. Someone who finally stood up and said, enough of this coddling of Muslim and Arab dictatorships. Their people deserve better. Why couldnât someone on the left have said that 50 years ago? Do Lefties truly believe that Arabs and Muslims are inferior and incapable of womenâs rights, childrenâs rights, democracy, human rights, freedom?
From Iraq The Model:
Some of the readers asked about my opinion about the interviews that GWB gave to Al-Hurra and Al-Arabeya TV channels and since Iâm a CIA agent (Iâm thinking of leaving them to work for the Mossad. Iâve heard they pay better), I guess my opinion would be biased, so I decided to offer you some of the responses I saw on the BBC Arabic which offers a comment section for Arab readers to post their opinions about the hot topics. There were about 30 comments today, since itâs still fresh on the site. As usual, the comments from Iraqis-in general-contradicted those from other Arab countries, especially Palestine, Syria and Saudi Arabia. I also found that many of the commentators considered President Bushâs speech an apology despite the fact that he didnât frankly apologize.
Iâve selected some of the comments for translation and itâs worth mentioning that about 40% of the total number of comments was positive (sorry, I mean they were supportive of the CIA propaganda).
Here are the translated comments:
-âThank you Sir for apologizing on the abuse of the Iraqi prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison. Here you opened an important file; I think that those criminals who were responsible for the mass graves in my country (who are now in your jailsâ cells) should apologize for their massacres against the Iraqi peopleâ.
Imad Al-Saâad - Netherlands.
-âWho reads the reactions of Iraqis will see how surprised theyâre by the way the Americans can prove that years of Saddamâs rule and of his anti-American propaganda can be washed out by time; here we have the president of the greatest nation on earth apologizes for what a small group of pervert soldiers did. And here, the American press proves that itâs free to show the truth. We lived with similar pictures for years until they became the basics of every prisonâs daily life and we never heard an Arabic paper point them out. These are lessons from the western culture entering the hearts of Arabs, whether the Arab leaders liked or notâ.
Saâeed - Diwaniyah/Iraq.
-âI think that President Bush should talk to us to fill the gap between us and I wish I could see the Arab leaders talk to us like GWB didâ
Jihad Abu Shabab - Germany.
-âIâm very happy to see Iraqis condemning the abuse and defending the rights of the prisoners and this is the first time they do something like this, which was impossible for them to do under the dictatorâs regime. I think that our Arab brothers should mind their own business and take a look at their own prisonsâ.
N - Jordan.
-"I think that president Bush was honest in what he said. Those abuses do not represent the American people. As a matter of fact, we can find cruel men with no morals in any country; thatâs why we should not judge a whole nation for the violations of a small group of people and Iâm sure that these will get the punishment they deserve. Here Iâd like to direct my question to the Arabic media âwhere were you when Saddam mass-executed my people and used all kinds of torture against us?â.
Reemon Aâadel Sami -Iraq
-âI think that President Bushâs statement will find acceptance from some of the Arabs, while the majority will not be satisfied with his words whatever apologies they included just because he is BUSH and he is AMERICAN. Iâm sure that the American officials are more upset by the event than the Iraqis themselves because this doesnât belong to their culture or their ethics as a civilized nation.
I think that the event took more space than it actually deserves and the media are creating a mountain from a grain. Itâs enough for us to remember Saddamâs doings to comment on what recently happenedâ.
Sameer-Jordan.
iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
news.bbc.co.uk/hi/arabic/talking ⌠687539.stm
Informative BF, but what about the other 24? Were they less than complimentary? You mentioned 30 posts and despite saying âhere are the translationsâ you translate only six. Now if you had said ânow here are some translations which I find useful just to make a pointâ that would be different altogether.
um, was it not obvious that bf was quoting the page he linked to? perhaps you should contact the blogger in iraq to comment on his poor grasp of english. 
Perhaps BroonAle needs to work on his poor grasp of English. 
Since Blueface you are clearly generating this entire Iraq the Model website blogger thing from your beachside bugalow in Bali, maybe Broonale is right. Personally, I think heâs unmasked your dastardly prank. That and the other site youâve got going. What do you call it, âThe Clashâ.
If, on occasion, an exasperated and furious West sinks to the same level
No Tigerman,
What we are waiting for are the WAR CRIME TRIBUNALS. And why the fuck not?
âI find that⌠military intelligence interrogators and (CIA) interrogators actively requested that MP (military police) guards set physical and mental conditions for favourable interrogation of witnesses,â the general concluded. "I find that personnel assigned to the 372nd MP Company, 800th MP Brigade, were directed to change facility procedures to âset the conditionsâ for MI interrogations.
In an exceptional move, and breaking with its usual silence, the International Committee of the Red Cross said it had warned Washington months ago that US troops had beaten and even killed Iraqis being held in detention.
It said maltreatment was so widespread it may have been condoned by US-led forces.
[quote=âFoxâ]No Tigerman,
What we are waiting for are the WAR CRIME TRIBUNALS. And why the fuck not?[/quote]
Donât hold your breath Fox⌠or do⌠its up to you.
Why the fuck not? Thatâs simple. Because there are so many out there who are opposed to the US invasion in the first place that the US soldiers involved could never be assured a fair trial⌠who would conduct such a trial⌠that joke of a tribunal, the ICJ?
No thanks. You guys were happy to leave Saddam in power to conduct his torture, rapes and murders. Now you are screaming because some US soldiers mistreated some prisoners. Thanks for your concern, but weâll take care of the problem. We outed the problem and weâll deal with it.
Those US soldiers involved will be punished, I hope severely.
But the US will handle the prosecution.
Itâs not what was done. It was how it was done and the motives which underlie it. That has always been my contention.
So donât think Iâm feeling too shamed by your posturing.
The US soldiers will not get a fair trial thatâs a laugh. Pull your head from the sand my friend. If there is any reason for them not getting a fair trial it will be as they form scapegoats for practices that are as old as war itself.
More rape, and torture by Saddamâs troops.