# China Breaches Taiwan Air defense **URL:** \ **Category:** Taiwan Politics\ **Created:** [January 23, 2021, 10:59am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870 "2021-01-23T10:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/21 "2021-01-25T00:50:55Z")
If you can’t get out. Go into the mountains. ---
**Author:** ![RBE](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/67e7ee/32.png) [@RBE](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/RBE)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/22 "2021-01-25T00:53:48Z")
I’m already there. 🕶 ![chuck](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/d/2/d2c24b70324a27de5f663eb81c83317ed9e6d7da.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Liberty](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/958977/32.png) [@Liberty](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Liberty)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/23 "2021-01-25T00:55:22Z")
Yes exactly. America has said repeatedly that Taiwan needs to have a defensive plan that will be able to actively deter the invasion for more than one month. This is the issue and why Taiwan has focused on developing their indigenous defence industry. The risk for everyone is China facing resistance and going MAD. Hence Americans request for a Taiwan defensive initiative. It gives America time to aim its weapons system at mainland China not plan to invade and defend Taiwan. Stop the threat at the source. ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/24 "2021-01-26T14:22:51Z")
It’s getting real! > **[US, Chinese electronic warfare planes buzz each other in Taiwan ADIZ | Taiwan...](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4112129?fbclid=IwAR2cwh4dvEvBvS-bnz4PkU4EDc3B3mw_XvBmoo2l-IzG1nWSICSY3jFFKds)** > > US appears to take new aggressive stance with China's intrusions into Taiwan ADIZ | 2021-01-26 16:22:00 ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/25 "2021-01-26T14:26:36Z")
> [@Liberty](#): > > It gives America time to aim its weapons system at mainland China not plan to invade and defend Taiwan. Stop the threat at the source. It takes a month to aim weapons at China? ---
**Author:** ![Nuit](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/nuit/32/461_2.png) [@Nuit](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Nuit)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/26 "2021-01-26T14:31:26Z")
I drove past about a thousand foot soliders today, on the march around the Hualien outskirts. Never seen that before. :popcorn: ---
**Author:** ![SuiGeneris](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/suigeneris/32/246773_2.png) [@SuiGeneris](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SuiGeneris)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/27 "2021-01-28T13:34:13Z")
Likely targets are listed. > **[List of Taiwan targets for China's bombers revealed | Taiwan News |...](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4113229)** > > Taipei's Zhongzheng and Zhongshan districts would be heavily bombarded in first wave.Taiwan's Presidential Office is at the top of China's list of structures to bomb | 2021-01-28 10:39:00 ---
**Author:** ![RBE](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/67e7ee/32.png) [@RBE](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/RBE)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/28 "2021-01-28T13:41:47Z")
And more tough talk. > **[China toughens language, warns Taiwan that independence 'means war' | Taiwan...](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4114150)** > > China toughens language, warns Taiwan that independence 'means war' | 2021-01-28 19:30:00 ---
**Author:** ![MikeN1](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e19adc/32.png) [@MikeN1](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/MikeN1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/29 "2021-01-28T13:45:51Z")
> [@sofun](#): > > Japanese Senkaku Islands The Diaoyutai are an inseparable part of the sacred territory of the Republic of China! ---
**Author:** ![Liam\_Og](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/liam_og/32/146898_2.png) [@Liam\_Og](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Liam_Og)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/30 "2021-01-28T13:47:56Z")
What actually is an air defense zone? And can it be ‘breached’? ---
**Author:** ![RBE](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/67e7ee/32.png) [@RBE](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/RBE)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/31 "2021-01-28T13:50:05Z")
> **[Air defense identification zone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_defense_identification_zone)** > > An air defense identification zone (ADIZ) is airspace over land or water in which the identification, location, and control of civil aircraft is performed in the interest of national security. They may extend beyond a country's territory to give the country more time to respond to possibly hostile aircraft. The concept of an ADIZ is not defined in any international treaty and is not regulated by any international body. > The first ADIZ was established by the United States on December 27, 1950, s... ---
**Author:** ![Liam\_Og](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/liam_og/32/146898_2.png) [@Liam\_Og](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Liam_Og)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/32 "2021-01-28T13:50:18Z")
![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/2/f/2fbdf54d5eb84b6ba3c88318a085a3b288fb8443.jpeg) So the ADIZ was breached when A: Chinese planes flew in Chinese airspace B: Chinese planes flew over international airspace C: Chinese planes flew over Taiwans airspace The Answer I believe is B because if it was C the headline would be “Chinese plane breaches Taiwan airspace” or something like that ---
**Author:** ![meishijia](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/meishijia/32/178949_2.png) [@meishijia](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/meishijia)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/33 "2021-01-28T13:52:30Z")
Wait what? Taiwan’s ADIZ overlaps into mainland China? ---
**Author:** ![RBE](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/67e7ee/32.png) [@RBE](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/RBE)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/34 "2021-01-28T13:55:18Z")
Well China is a part of Taiwan. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Liam\_Og](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/liam_og/32/146898_2.png) [@Liam\_Og](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Liam_Og)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/35 "2021-01-28T13:58:05Z")
> [@meishijia](#): > > ADIZ The premise of the ADIZ is that planes in it should identify themselves and their flight plan. There is no premise that the planes shouldn’t be there. ---
**Author:** ![unwat](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/779978/32.png) [@unwat](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/unwat)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/36 "2021-01-28T13:58:45Z")
I’ve read that the easiest way to think of an ADIZ isn’t as an area belonging to a country, more that they are watching that space so they’re aware of any threats. Think of it like where the radar sees. Taiwan has Kinmen County, so they point their radar inland so if China decided to send any planes our way, they’re ready earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/37 "2021-01-28T13:59:20Z")
Cindy Sui on the BBC is a total China shill. She has always been so biased fro Beijing. > ## A strong message for Biden > > **By Cindy Sui, BBC News, Taipei** > > China refrained from flying into Taiwan’s south-west air defence identification zone for years, even though it had the right to do so - such zones are not recognised in international law. So the Taiwanese government calls China’s flyovers “incursions”, but technically they are not. > > Analysts believe China wants to show dissatisfaction towards what it sees as former US President Donald Trump and Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen changing the status quo over the past four years. > > Just because there’s now a change in US president, doesn’t mean Beijing will stop asserting what it has long seen as its right to fly in its own backyard. It also wants to warn President Tsai against taking further steps towards formal independence. > > Perhaps more importantly, Beijing wants to send a strong message early on in Joe Biden’s presidency that the Taiwan issue is dangerous and remind him not to play with fire by emboldening Ms Tsai, as the Trump administration did. > > Instead it’s hoping Mr Biden will mitigate the risk by scaling down support for Taiwan, or at least sending a message to **Taipei not to be a troublemaker.** Regardless of the reason, it may be hard to convince Beijing to return to the gentler old days. ---
**Author:** ![meishijia](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/meishijia/32/178949_2.png) [@meishijia](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/meishijia)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/38 "2021-01-28T14:11:32Z")
Yeah, Taiwan News is sick of her too: > **[The BBC makes trouble in Taiwan's backyard once again | Taiwan News |...](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4113342)** > > Its Taiwan correspondent’s lack of understanding of cross-strait relations reveals a once proud broadcaster in decline.Its Taiwan correspondent’s lack of understanding reveals a once proud broadcaster in decline | 2021-01-28 17:46:00 ---
**Author:** ![snowstorm](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@snowstorm](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/snowstorm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/39 "2021-01-28T14:17:56Z")
Disappointing, they need to fix this. FYI for everyone there’s a link to file a complaint with BBC at the bottom of the Taiwan News article. ✅ > **[Make A Complaint | Contact the BBC](https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint)** ---
**Author:** ![Terry\_B](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/terry_b/32/82500_2.png) [@Terry\_B](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Terry_B)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870/40 "2021-01-28T14:46:28Z")
> [@Andrew0409](#): > > Cindy Sui on the BBC is a total China shill. She has always been so biased fro Beijing. Sui and Ralph Jennings should meet up. [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870.md?page=1) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/china-breaches-taiwan-air-defense/201870.md?page=3)