[quote=“cfimages”][quote=“cola”]Thanks, shifty, never claimed to be anything but a dilettante. But tell me, how is Islam a Judeo-Christian belief? And how is Judaism a Judeo-CHRISTIAN belief?
Inform me. I am all ears.
It is correct to say that Christians and Jews share a Judeo-Christian culture, but it is wrong to say that Jews have a Judeo-Christian belief, because they do not. They do not believe in the Christ figure at all. And Moslems believe that Jesus existed but they do not worship him or follow his teachings such as turn the other cheek, do they? Or do unto others BLAM! as you would have them do unto you BLAM! CARTOOMS UNITE!
tell me how I am wrong. would love to hear.[/quote]
As I understand it.
The Judeo part of Judeo-Christian refers to Judaism. The Christian religion and teachings (not the same thing) basically took Judaism and updated it. Of course, not all chose to follow the updated teachings.
Islam, which has a common root ancestor in Abraham, then came along and further updated it. Again, not all chose to follow the updated teachings.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have their basis in the Old Testament. The New Testament, is an update for the times on the Old. The Koran is a further update, based on both the Old and the New.
Judeo-Christian, as a term, possibly comes about because, if there wasn’t Christian support for Judaism, Israel probably wouldn’t exist. (But that’s just a guess). But it’s a term I’ve only read in post WW2 writings. Nothing I’ve seen, that was written prior to then, mentions Judeo-Christian. It’s either Judeo or Christian.
Muslims respect Jesus as a prophet, in much the same way that Christians respect Moses as a prophet. They just don’t believe he’s the son of God/final prophet. True they don’t worship him, but how many Christians pray to Moses?
And turn the other cheek. Well, it’s easily argued that Christians don’t practice that. Just look at the Crusades, the Spanish conquistadors, Christian aid orgs that don’t provide aid to non-Christians, the use of the death penalty in the US, the Vatican turning a blind eye to Nazi atrocities, the recruitment of Nazi war criminal into the intelligence services of the west post WW2, etc.
You could mount a conceivable argument that Muslims do follow the do unto others rule. The most recent intifada in Palestine/Israel was originally Palestinian youths throwing rocks in protest. The response was bullets. The response to bullets was suicide bombings. The response to that was helicopter gunships. Et al. Both sides have blood on their hands, and neither side is 100% right, the same as neither is 100% wrong.
I’ve been a pacifist all my life. My motto is “Ahimsa Paramo Dharma” which means “Non-violence is the highest virtue”. I don’t agree with violence on any side, under any circumstances. Yet all religions engage in it.[/quote]
Great points one all.
Most modern religious scholars believe that the term "Judeo Christian’ is dismissive of Islam and have opted for Judeo-Christian-Islamic’ the original term is ethnocentric; much the way B.C. and A.D. were; (as well all know B.C. has been modified to B.C.E.-before the common era)
The common roots of the tree and where the various saplings veered off have been wonderfully explained in previous threads.
While there is no denying that the newspaper article is less than academically current, the foundations of the author