Choose 2 Citizenships or Take All 3?

I have some questions about dual vs triple citizenship.

Is one permitted to hold passports from three countries?

Also, can a mother (or father) travel with her biological kids but without having the same surname as them?

Also, short of being able to vote, what benefits are there to having a USA passport on top of valid ROC and Canadian ones?

If one is to live in the USA forever and ever with a spouse and children, MUST one acquire a USA passport or not?

People talk about dual citizenship because few people have more than two. If the countries recognize dual citizenship then multiple shouldn’t be a problem.

My wife has never had a problem traveling with my daughter even though her US passport doesn’t have the same surname as her.

You also get to pay taxes on your worldwide income even if you are non-resident in the US, though you can exclude around US$80k of your earned income so that may not be a problem depending on your circumstances. If you are a businessman or investor, US citizenship is a bit of a handicap in this regard. Hardly any other countries assess taxes on foreign income for non-resident citizens.

No, you can remain a green card resident for as long as you want.

The main reasons people seek out an additional citizenship is because they are a long term resident in the country, they want additional citizenship as insurance in case they have citizenship in a volatile country, they want to make it easier to travel without visa, to get additional citizenship or residencies for your children, or to be able to get different tax treatment. Your Canadian citizenship already fulfills these goals.

I think you should ask yourself where you intend to live long term. If it’s in the US then it may be worth going for citizenship there. If you don’t have plans to stay in the US long term then I’d say stick with what you’ve got.

Thanks for the reply, I just checked it now.

I thought a few readers would have the same issue wrt triple citizenship but appar not.

I did some investigating and becoming a naturalized US citizen has a few perks: voting rights, applying to certain government jobs, and being able to stay outside of the USA for longer than six months at a time.

And in case anyone is wondering, you don’t need to give up any of the above citizenship(s) when you take on another of the above.

That’s not quite true. You have to give up citizenship in other countries if you wish to acquire ROC citizenship.

Tru dat. One must acquire ROC as first citizenship if one wishes to acquire others.

Fyi ROC citizens can collect citizenships from around the world as they wish, yet it doesn’t work for people wishing to take on ROC citizenship later in life.

stupid law, very very stupid and so non-evolved

Taiwan would serve itself better by allowing foreigners to become nationals by making it possible for to do it without having this hurdle of renouncing their original citizenship.
These draconian laws of 1911 should be updated to reflect the realities of Taiwan today. Taiwan is alone in the world and needs any help it can - give those foreigners nationally, and let them contribute to Taiwan and its future, instead of treating them as some necessary temporary guests they need here to do various jobs

wow, kids… permanence in the US.

You are thinking far ahead. woah.

don’t some people get PR without the citizenship?

[quote=“914”]Tru dat. One must acquire ROC as first citizenship if one wishes to acquire others.

Fyi ROC citizens can collect citizenships from around the world as they wish, yet it doesn’t work for people wishing to take on ROC citizenship later in life.[/quote]

This is not quite exact as I’m proof of that.

What the ‘exception’ is that so long as the person was listed on a HRC (household registration certificate) somewhere in Taiwan long long ago, this person can come back and “reclaim” their citizenship of ROC despite the fact they might never have had it (i.e. no ID, no passport) but lived outside of Taiwan as a national of another country (i.e US or Canada). In other words, this person was always a ROC national, but just never ‘acknowledged’ officially by the gov’t.

The trick, and it’s a big one, is you need to know how to work the system…or find someone who does.

[quote=“914”]I have some questions about dual vs triple citizenship.

Is one permitted to hold passports from three countries? [/quote]

I do. But I guess it depends on the countries in question.

You don’t need a US passport to do that.

:wink:

Resurrecting an old thread because I don’t want to start another one about the same thing.

This was in the “Making Canadians” thread:

[quote=“zmlr300”][quote=“914”]FYI:

As of February 1, 2012, all Canadian citizenship certificates are 8.5x11 paper size documents. The “cards” are no longer issued after February 1, 2012. See cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/proof.asp

I sent in our application for my child’s citizenship certificate in February 2011 from California to Nova Scotia. CIC received it 2/21/2011. They started processing it 3/18/2011. They issued the citizenship card 1/24/2012. I received it in Taiwan (mail rerouted from US) 2/29/2012. So on average, 11 months.[/quote]

Talking about efficiency eh?

My son is just shy of 22 months old, he had 3 passports for over an year already. (Taiwan, Japan, Canada)[/quote]

I have a question about getting passports for children. How beneficial is it to apply for multiple passports for a child? Currently our children just have US passports, proof of Canadian citizenship, and I think the ROC ID (is that the same as proof of citizenship? Not sure) is a lost cause at this point since we’re all living in TW on ARCs anyway.

We all have US passports, but with a Jewish last name (mine is tacked on to my own surname, not in place of) we wonder if it’s better for the kids to get Canadian passports like I also have to make travel as a family easier. I mean, if anything happens, the woman and children will be safe! :wink: It’s not something we’ve given that much thought to yet, since we’ve no immediate plans to travel to any Muslim or middle east countries, but you always wonder with the anti-Semitic/anti-USA sentiments in certain countries…

Zmlr300: can you tell me why you decided to get 3 passports for your child? Feel free to PM me if you’d like. Thanks!

I’ve got three passports.

Right now I don’t see my US passport as EVER being useful (aside from for visiting family), but when kiddies are babbies what’s the point in ruling out options? You never know where life might take you or them. If they’re eligible for multiple citizenships get them ALL. (Like Pokemon.)

For certain countries (like Japan) you need to pretend you don’t have any other citizenships, or they delete your Japanese citizenship. For the others I have no idea, but none of my countries know I hold more than two citizenships (actually, I once entered Taiwan on my Australian, married on my US and have my ARC on my UK, so technically Taiwan has a record of all of my nationalities - whether or not they can reconcile that to the same person is another question).

If I have to give up one permanently I’d give up my US because it is the least useful to me, but I would like to keep it as you never know where you’ll end up!

That’s not quite true. You have to give up citizenship in other countries if you wish to acquire ROC citizenship.[/quote]
Unless you have Taiwanese ancestry.

[quote=“914”]Resurrecting an old thread because I don’t want to start another one about the same thing.

This was in the “Making Canadians” thread:

[quote=“zmlr300”][quote=“914”]FYI:

As of February 1, 2012, all Canadian citizenship certificates are 8.5x11 paper size documents. The “cards” are no longer issued after February 1, 2012. See cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/proof.asp

I sent in our application for my child’s citizenship certificate in February 2011 from California to Nova Scotia. CIC received it 2/21/2011. They started processing it 3/18/2011. They issued the citizenship card 1/24/2012. I received it in Taiwan (mail rerouted from US) 2/29/2012. So on average, 11 months.[/quote]

Talking about efficiency eh?

My son is just shy of 22 months old, he had 3 passports for over an year already. (Taiwan, Japan, Canada)[/quote]

I have a question about getting passports for children. How beneficial is it to apply for multiple passports for a child? Currently our children just have US passports, proof of Canadian citizenship, and I think the ROC ID (is that the same as proof of citizenship? Not sure) is a lost cause at this point since we’re all living in TW on ARCs anyway.

We all have US passports, but with a Jewish last name (mine is tacked on to my own surname, not in place of) we wonder if it’s better for the kids to get Canadian passports like I also have to make travel as a family easier. I mean, if anything happens, the woman and children will be safe! :wink: It’s not something we’ve given that much thought to yet, since we’ve no immediate plans to travel to any Muslim or middle east countries, but you always wonder with the anti-Semitic/anti-USA sentiments in certain countries…

Zmlr300: can you tell me why you decided to get 3 passports for your child? Feel free to PM me if you’d like. Thanks![/quote]

Well for one, Canadian passport holders don’t pay the same visa fees :stuck_out_tongue:

Having ROC ID means your kids have citizenship.