[quote=“Bodo”][quote=“TheGingerMan”]In fact, as an army brat, and former member of an artillery regiment (mock all you want, we’re still the best friend of a hard-pressed infantry), [b]this thread (and many others) exhibits a quite shocking ignorance of military means and ways.
In many ways, “civilians” don’t get it at all[/b]… :taz:[/quote]
Hey Gingerman, I’m all ears. I don’t pretend to have an understanding of military means and ways - I only have an opinion about torture - I think it’s immoral and I think it probably does not yield much truthful and therefore useful information. You sound like you have some knowledge of military ways - why don’t you share in a little more detail why this thread is ignorant. I’d like to learn. Maybe you can change my mind (I have my doubts, however).
Preferably you can share it in another thread - because this one deals with the CIA and it’s use of torture.
Bodo[/quote]
Sorry, Bodo. My original venom was laced in the General Direction of the Great Supposers. And you’re right: this thread is about CIA Torture, though it was in that general descent into the Air Force rape incidents that brought my Gander Up.
And please Don’t Misquote me. I never said this thread (and others) IS (are) ignorant of military life in general, only that it (they) EXHIBIT the same. The former suggests that it’s all bunk, I only maintain than some of it is.
Torture is Immoral. I agree. I myself am opposed to it. But first what is Torture? Is it a blanket statement or are there different levels of acceptability, according to the “relevant” needs? Physical, Mental, Emotional, PsyOPs, subliminal propaganda, the list goes on and on.
And, fear not, one deep dark day, when I’ve crawled out of the GingerCavern long enuff for the sun to boil my brain, then I promise I’ll get into that new thread about how most civilians are ungrateful pedantic wankers…
Awright, then