One of my English speaking neighbors warned me yesterday that the community passed a rule prohibiting dog owners from allowing their dogs to poo or pee in the community. I’m a little skeptical whether they can legally do that.
DaPeng Village is a public “li”. The “road” that passes down the middle of it is actually a public street, Lane 700 of JhongJhen Rd. As long as I follow the law requiring I pick up after my dog, can they further prohibit me from allowing her to eliminate in the community at all?
[quote=“CraigTPE”]One of my English speaking neighbors warned me yesterday that the community passed a rule prohibiting dog owners from allowing their dogs to poo or pee in the community. I’m a little skeptical whether they can legally do that.
DaPeng Village is a public “li”. The “road” that passes down the middle of it is actually a public street, Lane 700 of JhongJhen Rd. As long as I follow the law requiring I pick up after my dog, can they further prohibit me from allowing her to eliminate in the community at all?[/quote]
I think they can only do that within the borders of the community and only if the community is an apartment complex. The committee overseeing the community may have rights to dictate rules that must be followed within the community. As for bordering streets, I doubt it.
This is kind of a gray area. The “lane” in question doesn’t border the community, but passes through the middle of it. It’s gated at both ends, but it’s technically a public road. The topic came up under a discussion over who has the “right” to take care of certain gardens. The gardens bordering the lane are supposedly “city” property and the delegation of gardening “rights” is done by the “li zhang”, not the community administration.
Communities are entitled to make such rules, but they have very limited power to enforce them (they have to sue you, which is often more trouble than it’s worth). In this case it’s simply unrealistic to expect pets to never poo again, ever. A litter box isn’t always practical, especially for large animals.
It’s a bit of a long shot, but you could try talking to the community ‘leaders’ and try to make them understand that pets need to poo and pee, and that it’s not a health hazard as long as it’s not left on walkways. I’ve noticed a lot of city-dwellers are so totally disconnected from nature that they don’t understand what normally happens to animal excrement. If you explain to them that it gets quickly dealt with by smaller animals and bacteria, and incorporated into the soil, where it improves the soil structure and nutrient content, they look at you as if you’ve gone mad. Poo is dreadfully dangerous and must be flushed away or incinerated!
we live in a townhouse community and our defined area is somewhat of a mystery, but we try to manage it as best as possible…
you are responsible with your dog, but this is for the one person that isn’t…
this goes along the lines of designated dog parks…
we have a similar set of restrictions, reason being:
we don’t want to encourage outsiders, who have a right to walk down the road, to be able to let their dogs poo on our property/driveways. if they don’t live there, they are less inclined to pick it up. remember all the old people that let their dogs shit everywhere without picking it up? you can’t change them, but this helps a bit. just them noticing the sign, which takes time, will change their habits…
this weather is not conducive to animal urine, stains the cement with the hot weather, over time cement, even with maintenance turns to hell.
plants get dug up, people get pissed off.
my neighbor has a big husky that has quite busy in the feces department, but he always cleans it up so the neighborhood is okay…from my experience, if the neighbors see that you are responsible maybe they won’t put up a fuss…
this rule that is passed by the strata board legally lets us put up signs notifying the public. yes it is hard to sue somebody(almost impossible) for their dog pissing on your flowers, but it is the only way to discourage and educate people on taking proper care with their animals. people still walk through the road with their dogs, as they should, but they don’t let the dogs wander around and they are pretty quick to pick stuff up if something happens.
let’s call this action a public announcement. some notification around the neighborhood is a form of recourse against the ignorant types that don’t listen to anyone…
Craig, they can photograph you or video you not picking up after your dog. That’s IT. It’s a law that took effect Aug. 1. If they picture you and you get fined as a result, they get a portion of the fine for informing on you. There’s NOTHING about Not pissing or shitting. That’s just crap translation, I think.
I live on a street where a lot of people go for walks, nowadays they are dragging Fido along with them, if I am not VERY careful every single time I leave my house on foot I may walk into a pile of dog shit. This is extremely fucking annoying and I curse every ignorant self centered prick who doesn’t have the common decency to pick up their dog’s shit or at least kick it off the main part of the sidewalk.
I hope there is a city wide crack down on this behavior.
And how, pray tell, does one manage to photograph a dog owner NOT picking up after his dog? Should the photographer aim for the stool itself…? (But then, how would the court determine which dog, and human, to blame?) The dog in the act of excreting? (But this would not show whether the owner picked it up later.) The owner walking away, with the stool in the foreground? (A technically difficult shot.) Do neighborhood crime-watchers have the right to demand ID from dog-walkers?