Ain’t it the truth but be careful lest you get lectures from driveby moderators on attacking the messenger and not the message.[/quote]
Attack the message, not the messenger, you pair of stupid … oops, I mean, you pair of posters of stupid messages.
It wasn’t an attack, it was an “observation.”
Anyway, you should check into those oil and defense industry profits. Might give you a fresh perspective to work with.
Defense and allied Electronic/Military contractors has been doing well for quite some time… :bravo: :bravo:
I just read that Hezbollah lobbed 190 rockets and killed 1 person :s
What the hell? Were they shooting bottle rockets?
Thank the buddha that more weren’t killed though.
Lo Bo To,
The facts Israelis have bomb shelters, early warning systems and that most of the civilians there left have huge impact. Try to look to some pictures from Israel. The north is ruined. Don’t underestimate Hezbollah, it’s just that Israel doesn’t publish exact locations to prevent Hezbollah from aiming better.
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 … 88,00.html
Are we to understand that you have shares in some of these companies then, or are you just glad to see manufacturers of death machinery making money generally? If it is yes to the first part then what we have is one of the most vocal supporters of just about every military action that happens benefitting financially from those actions. No suprise there. If it is no to the first part, and yes to the second part, the only thing I can think is “why?” The world will be living for decades with the hostility that these military actions have generated. What in the world is there to clap about there?
Maybe I should. I am getting damned sick and tired of pretending to work. It really tires a guy out.
[quote=“bob”][quote=“TainanCowboy”]Defense and allied Electronic/Military contractors has been doing well for quite some time… :bravo: :bravo:[/quote]Are we to understand that you have shares in some of these companies then, or are you just glad to see manufacturers of death machinery making money generally? If it is yes to the first part then what we have is one of the most vocal supporters of just about every military action that happens benefitting financially from those actions. No suprise there. If it is no to the first part, and yes to the second part, the only thing I can think is “why?” The world will be living for decades with the hostility that these military actions have generated. What in the world is there to clap about there?[/quote]Sorry ‘bob’ -
Your sanctimonius babbling is raising no hackles on my neck.
You have your beliefs…I have mine.
I accept yours and know that I neither seek to change your beliefs nor care enough to worry about not changing them.
You, on the other hand, do not like what you percieve to be my beliefs and life avenues and continually whine and make deriscive and holier-than-thou comments about what you think you know.
…So what?..pfffft!
I learned a long time ago that I will never change the world. Perhaps…just perhaps, I may at various points in my life, be able to say or do something that will have a positive effect on something or someone or some situation. If so, then I pray that I have said/done/acted in the right manner. Maybe so.
I choose to do what my conscience and duty to my family and beliefs tell me is right and correct.
So just go back to your self-santimony and worry about setting the good example for those in your life-orbit.
Clean one own stoop (door step) as it were.
[quote=“Lo Bo To”]I just read that Hezbollah lobbed 190 rockets and killed 1 person :s
What the hell? Were they shooting bottle rockets?
Thank the buddha that more weren’t killed though.[/quote]Lo Bo To -
The count goes on…
After two days in which Hezbollah fired almost no rockets at Israel, some 210 rockets and missiles were launched on Wednesday toward northern communities - the largest number since the beginning of the fighting.
added:from same article
“Some 2,050 rockets have been fired at Israel from Lebanon during the current conflict thus far.”
Just out of curiosity, do we have a count on how many Israeli rockets have been fired?
[quote=“JMcNeill”]Just out of curiosity, do we have a count on how many Israeli rockets have been fired?[/quote]JcNeill -
Good Q. I have not seen any ordinance figures from Israeli operations.
I doubt if any would be forthcoming either.
Israel would probably deem this information to be classified.
Just a guess on my part based on prior observation.
[quote]The count goes on…
After two days in which Hezbollah fired almost no rockets at Israel, some 210 rockets and missiles were launched on Wednesday toward northern communities - the largest number since the beginning of the fighting.
added:from same article
“Some 2,050 rockets have been fired at Israel from Lebanon during the current conflict thus far.”[/quote]
Hmm, so this violence that has rained down on the civilian population of Lebanon hasn’t really added up to much then now has it? Perhaps it is after all, a flawed plan?
As Tony Blair has noted, you don’t win hearts and minds by bombing the shit out of innocent people. Meanwhile, the criminals have their rockets and are merrily firing away as the state of Lebanon and any ability it may have had at offsetting the role of these Hezbolleh thugs is further weakened.
Bravo Israel, another permanent foe to flash you super macho cock at whenever the political viagra runs low. After all, it is that country’s raison d’être to fight for it’s very survival. Biut one wonders what happens when it doesn’t need to fight anynmore, what will it blame it’s crap economy on then?
All that loathing and violence, for what?
HG
Some general background info on Lebanon:
The terrain
The country
BEHIND ENEMY LINES:
Hizb’allah has 6 major training bases in the Bekaa Valley and in South-Lebanon.
In the Bekaa Valley, the terrorist Hizb’allah/Syrian/Iranian military bases are:
1- Ain Bourday Base (South of Baalbek): training camp for general guerilla warfare.
2- Nabi Sheet Base : training camp for general guerilla warfare.
3- BaaIbek Homs Road Base: train General Guerilla warfare.
4- Wadi Firsan Base (in the Hermel, Bekaa Valley): Main activities taught
at this base are guerilla warfare, survival warfare, long range patrols,
observations techniques, anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapon techniques and so on.
Missiles and chemical weaponry smuggled before the war from Iraq to
Syria is believed to be buried and hiding around this base in the Bekaa Valley.
5-Wadi Al Yammouneh Base: This terrorist Base is located between the Bekaa Valley
and the upper moutains of Jbeil. Activities are Guerilla warfare, anti tank and
anti aircraft weapons, and other terrorist skills.
6- Nabeh El Assi Base {EL ASSI RIVER} ( location -Hermel, Bekaa Valley): This base
is a covert base disguised as a fishing farm. The main activities in this base are marine
and underwater guerilla warfare techniques, demolition techniques, and general training
for close combat and weapons techniques and skills.
More Intel
[quote=“TainanCowboy”] Your sanctimonius babbling is raising no hackles on my neck.
You have your beliefs…I have mine.
I accept yours and know that I neither seek to change your beliefs nor care enough to worry about not changing them.
You, on the other hand, do not like what you percieve to be my beliefs and life avenues and continually whine and make deriscive and holier-than-thou comments about what you think you know.
…So what?..pfffft!
I learned a long time ago that I will never change the world. Perhaps…just perhaps, I may at various points in my life, be able to say or do something that will have a positive effect on something or someone or some situation. If so, then I pray that I have said/done/acted in the right manner. Maybe so.
I choose to do what my conscience and duty to my family and beliefs tell me is right and correct.
So just go back to your self-santimony and worry about setting the good example for those in your life-orbit.
Clean one own stoop (door step) as it were.[/quote]
I have no idea what this is about. It is a rare individual who won’t at least try to do the right thing or at least say he tries.
A general theme of many of my posts lately is that perhaps one of reasons there is so much apparently counter productive military activity going on these days is because some people are profitting from it. Apparently you see nothing “wrong” in this and responded by saying that military contractors were indeed doing well. You found that success cause for a round of applause. I am simply trying to figure out why you would respond that way. If it is because you are benefiting financially yourself then all of your opinions regarding the “war on terror” are suspect in ways that perhaps you haven’t even considered yet. I’d suggest that if you would rather that people not speculate as to your motives then don’t post messages that make you look like a war monger. Pretty simple actually. You want sweet smelling feet you don’t step in poo do you?
[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]
As Tony Blair has noted, you don’t win hearts and minds by bombing the shit out of innocent people. [/quote]
When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.
Yes, we’ve seen how well that works. Mind you I do like the idea of implementing that into my private life.
HG
That grip on the balls can’t be too tight now, can it?
And yes, a record day of Hezbolleh rocket launches is digusting.
HG
[quote]Olmert doesn’t let facts stand in way of a success story
Jonathan Pearlman in Jerusalem
August 4, 2006
Though his wartime bombast may not yet be in the same league as that of the former Iraqi information minister, Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf - dubbed Comical Ali - Ehud Olmert’s inflated accounts of Israel’s progress has led to growing criticisms of his leadership.
While trying to deliver a consistent message about Israel’s imminent victory, the Prime Minister has succeeded in demonstrating one of his most glaring weaknesses as leader. He is unable to refrain from overstating his aims and raising expectations of improbable triumphs.
On Wednesday, a day after his declaration that Israel’s military successes were “unparalleled” and “unprecedented”, Hezbollah was achieving some records of its own. It fired 231 missiles across towns in northern Israel - a one-day record. The attacks killed one person and injured more than 50.
Hezbollah also delivered several long-range missiles more than 70 kilometres across the border, achieving its furthest strikes into Israel.[/quote]
Interesting stories are breaking as fighting continues. Looks like there are questions being raised to where the IDF soldiers were apprehended.
antiwar.com/frank/?articleid=9401
So were the IDF on a commando raid of Aitaa al-Chaab where they were ambushed in Lebanon or were the IDF forced to enter Lebanon to chase Hezbollah kidnappers?
Okay, when Israel warned everyone in southern Lebanon to evacuate, it was supported by some here who said that that was all that was necessary; anyone staying behind had voluntarily assumed the risks and was not entitled to sympathy.
So now that Hizbullah has clearly given similar warnings to northern Israel, does the same apply? If not, why not?
Given that Hizbullah has also stated and shown its willingness to halt missile attacks if Israel halted bombing attacks.
However, Isreal does have a history of this behavior. Which caused the issue of “Right of Return” for former Palestine residents.
Many in Southern Lebanon don’t want to leave their property for fear of Jewish settlers taking their property while they were away.
The only reason Hizbullah made such a round about gesture is because the IDF cannot continue their ground campaign without air support. He’s looking for a diplomatic solution with a cease-fire offer.
However, I’m more interested in seeing if he will really target Tel Aviv as he claims if Israel continues to bomb Beruit. I don’t know if Israel can disengage their military if escalation continues on that path.
I think it was Arafat that once said “Israeli Nationalism” was his greatest allie.