The president has now defied the Supreme Court’s orders to return Abrego Garcia. We are officially in a Constitutional Crisis.
Pam Bondi is telling lies about courts ruling he was a member of MS13.
This hasn’t happened since (Marbury vs Madison?)
The Supreme Court doesn’t have an army to enforce the ruling.
Stephen Miller is up there spinning it like the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 in their favor, but anyone with half a brain knows he sounds completely ridiculous.
I’d like to hear from American conservatives on this. @Dr_Milker. What’s the name of that guy who’s a lawyer? I forgot his name. Mithander?
too much orange juice for the guy, the diabetes is impeding his (already limited) cognitive functions.
it’s a sad state of affairs, the US will be very much tarnished with their reputation and global face. But hey, rust and bible belt folks don’t care about that, and they vote.
I believe Trump offered to fly Garcia back if ES freed him.
Following the Supreme Court’s ruling, Xinis issued an order that the U.S. government “take all available steps to facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia to the United States as soon as possible” and to comply with the high court’s order to “share what it can concerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further steps.”
The administration initially didn’t provide her with any of that information, but in a filing Saturday it said Abrego Garcia "is currently being held in the Terrorism Confinement Center in El Salvador. He is alive and secure in that facility.
Again, I’m not seeing a constitutional crisis.
More from the ES side:
“This individual is a citizen of El Salvador,” Rubio said. “He was illegally in the United States and was returned to his country. That’s where you deport people back to their country of origin.”
“The foreign policy of the United States is conducted by the President of the United States, not by a court,” Rubio said. “And no court in the United States has a right to conduct a foreign policy in the United States, it’s that simple. End of story.”
He was deported illegally, and Trump clearly isn’t taking all available steps to “facilitate” his return – flying the president of ES to Washington to gloat about keeping him seems like kinda the opposite?
I expect it won’t matter since there will be clearer-cut cases ahead. Meanwhile Trump is now talking about deporting citizens there too. Hope everyone is careful not to wear the wrong hat!
The Supreme Court required the U.S. to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release, but stopped short of a lower court’s order to both “facilitate and effectuate” his return.[14] The administration took this to mean that it has no obligation to arrange for Abrego Garcia’s return[15] and can fulfill its obligation to “facilitate” his release by admitting him into the U.S.[15] and providing a plane[16] if El Salvador chooses to release him, which President of El Salvador Nayib Bukele refuses to do.[17]
I’d like to know more about the
2019, when an immigration judge granted him “withholding of removal” status, a rare alternative to asylum, over the threat to his life from gang violence in El Salvador if deported.
Apparently it is actually a thing that happens from time to time, often after court rulings also using the word “facilitate”. It’s hard to google, but here’s some history and specific examples from ChatGPT:
So we’re not on completely untrodden ground here. What is new is the administration claiming it can’t possibly get him back. Like, they obviously can. El Salvador wouldn’t refuse if asked, recent theater notwithstanding.
Logically the next step here is for the Supreme Court to narrowly define what they mean by the word “facilitate” – if it doesn’t require any good faith effort, then why even make the ruling?
Here is your Australian Conservative point of view… Kilmar Abrego Garcia was an illegal alien with ties to MS-13 a gang infamous for murder, rape, drug trafficking, and human smuggling. He wasn’t a citizen. He wasn’t a legal immigrant. He wasn’t some helpless refugee. He was a violent parasite with zero right to be in the United States. Deporting him wasn’t controversial, it was common sense.
And yet, here we are, watching American leftists melt down because the President didn’t “obey” the Supreme Court. Funny thing is, the Court didn’t even go that far. They didn’t order the government to physically retrieve him, didn’t demand El Salvador release him. They sent the case back to a lower court to “work out the details.” Translation? They know there is nothing can do and shrugged it back to the lower court.
“Facilitate” his return, whatever that means. Roll out the red carpet? Send him a first-class ticket back so he can rejoin his gang? It’s absurd.
And it’s both hilarious and tragic how there’s always this twisted element in American society that goes to bat for foreign criminals. You put “illegal” and “violent” in the same sentence, and suddenly they’re lighting candles for the guy like he’s some sainted martyr. These people defend terrorists harder than they defend citizens. It’s insane.
In Australia, we don’t play this game. You show up illegally? You’re out. You pose a threat? You’re gone. End of story. No courts wringing their hands. No activist judges weeping over deportation orders. We act like a country. Maybe America should try that.
The President did what the courts were too afraid to do: put Americans first and slam the door shut on gang-affiliated trash.
Oh come on. His ties with MS-13 consisted of wearing a Bulls hat, and a nonsensical statement from an informant that he was a gang leader in a place he has never lived, which the police said they didn’t believe.
That’s a suit someone other than the WH will do I suppose.
That’s a carefully chosen word. They have no right or power to enforce their rulings. Will Congress step up to save this guy’s bacon, and give Trump another media win, another 80/20 issue where the dems fall in the minority.
All big time politics here, and most likely directed at getting people to self-deport. Sucks to be an illegal alien these days – eh-- remined some of something
