Coronavirus and Religion

[anon38216271]

@keoni

@anon38216271

How would one imagine a being that is so loving that it allows us to have free will?

Imagine you are a parent. And you lock up your kids in a cage and never allow them to go out and play, never allow them to experience life outside of a cage you built for them. How could you as a parent call that love? How could you expect those kids to love you back?

Not clear. Thx

[crusher]

I am like God, and God like me. I am as large as God, He is as small as I. He cannot above me, nor I beneath Him be. Selatius, 17th Century.

[keoni]

@crusher

Selatius, 17th Century.

Are you referring to Angelus Silesius?

[crusher]

This one. Yah thanks for the spelling correction.

Angelus Silesius Quote

[yyy]

How may we mortals begin to understand Coronavirus in terms of God’s Great Plan™?

@discobot quote

[discobot]

If you love life, don’t waste time, for time is what life is made up of. — Bruce Lee

[yyy]

But wasn’t Bruce an atheist?!

@discobot fortune

[discobot]

Better not tell you now

[Rocket]

@yyy

@anon38216271

I don’t know what your point is, especially since verbal tone is missing from this post.

@anon38216271

God doesn’t intervene where they aren’t wanted.

From singular to plural with no reason (unless you’re indirectly making a trinitarian argument)? Face the wrath of my inner English teacher!

If you really mean to say God is non-binary and therefore naturally suited to the 3rd person plural (and to hell with all traditional theological literature), then it’s just a Pronoun Wars argument, and we have another thread for that.

Jesus wept

[DesiInTaipei]

Brainwash then by giving them 10 commandments on a chit saying this is love.

[keoni]

@DesiInTaipei

Brainwash then by giving them 10 commandments on a chit saying this is love.

Israel was in the beginning a theocracy. All governments have law. Otherwise there would be anarchy.

[tempogain]

@keoni

Describing anything, sentient or otherwise, that exists in a realm outside of what we can see is like asking a blind person to describe something or someone 100 meters away from him.

I get it, and I believe much the same when it comes to the nature of reality. If various people will refrain from aggressively asserting that they do know and people who disagree with them are somehow flawed, I think I’d be totally fine.

[oneofdaroughs]

The universe is an uncontrolled, random procession of events and interactions; moreover, we the have the known reliability and consistency of science to prove it.

[keoni]

@oneofdaroughs

The universe is an uncontrolled, random procession of events and interactions

Unless what appears to be random is actually order and precision at a level of complexity which you cannot process.

[Rocket]

@keoni

@oneofdaroughs

The universe is an uncontrolled, random procession of events and interactions

Unless what appears to be random is actually order and precision at a level of complexity which you cannot process.

And the relative reliability and consistency of science are the closest we can come to beginning to comprehend the (for us) incomprehensible.

[OysterOmelet]

@oneofdaroughs

The universe is an uncontrolled, random procession of events and interactions; moreover, we the have the known reliability and consistency of science to prove it.

Random? Scientists are searching for one neat theory that governs the entire universe.

Your statement is a contradiction.

You can’t do science if this universe was meaningless gibberish.

[DesiInTaipei]

@OysterOmelet

You can’t do science if this universe was meaningless gibberish.

Why not? Just because we may not have the tools today doesn’t mean the universe is not gibberish. Einstein initially didn’t understand quantum mechanics - uncertainty. But that is a real thing.

[OysterOmelet]

@DesiInTaipei

@OysterOmelet

You can’t do science if this universe was meaningless gibberish.

Why not? Just because we may not have the tools today doesn’t mean the universe is not gibberish. Einstein initially didn’t understand quantum mechanics - uncertainty. But that is a real thing.

Quantum mechanics isn’t gibberish. You know the exact distribution of locations and events.

[MikeN1]

[quote=“OysterOmelet, post:76, topic:189688”]
Random? Scientists are searching for one neat theory that governs the entire universe.[/quote]
Searching for, not found. Is there one? We don’t know

You can’t do science if this universe was meaningless gibberish.

This little corner appears to be orderly- which tells us nothing of how it got that way.

[MikeN1]

@keoni

Unless what appears to be random is actually order and precision at a level of complexity which you cannot process.

Unless it isn’t. There may be a giant one-eyed purple monster in my closet- or there may not.