# Coronavirus - Taiwan 2021 **URL:** \ **Category:** Living in Taiwan\ **Tags:** covid-19, 2021\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866 "2021-01-01T07:56:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SuperS54](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/supers54/32/137985_2.png) [@SuperS54](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SuperS54)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/1 "2021-01-01T07:56:35Z")
5 supposedly in the 7 day post quarantine self monitoring period were found at the concert, [https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4091789?fbclid=IwAR2W8lBQL413\_879eq9kJmM9iVjUm6AfChwrCSd4CdeFsgKII-RhgF-mtDM](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4091789?fbclid=IwAR2W8lBQL413_879eq9kJmM9iVjUm6AfChwrCSd4CdeFsgKII-RhgF-mtDM) . Another 20 or so were warned away from the Taipei 101 fireworks area after being electronically tracked. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ghost](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@The\_Ghost](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/The_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 8:36am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/2 "2021-01-01T08:36:53Z")
Need to start jailing them. It’s clear the fine isn’t enough. I’m guessing they’re the son of some rich asshole who will pay it off for them because the fine is pocket change. Give them a year behind bars. Teach them a lesson and send a statement to other idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:24am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/3 "2021-01-01T09:24:01Z")
At 8 pm 4000. When the concert started 9000. So now they are counting the crowds outside to make it 38 thousand and not lose over to Amei, with 50 thousand. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 12:16pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/4 "2021-01-01T12:16:28Z")
Three more imported cases reported today—two Indonesian fishers (both asymptomatic) and another Taiwanese returning from the US: > **[Taiwan reports 3 new imported COVID-19 cases Friday - Focus Taiwan](https://focustaiwan.tw/society/202101010006)** > > Taipei, Jan. 1 (CNA) Taiwan reported three additional imported cases of COVID-19 on Friday, bringing the total of confirmed cases in the country to 802 since the epidemic began, according to the Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC). Guy ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/5 "2021-01-01T12:36:02Z")
1. Taipei City Super Duper mayor says they caught 30 in self monitoring period. > **[自主健康管理者想闖北市跨年　天網揪出30人 | ETtoday政治新聞 | ETtoday新聞雲](https://www.ettoday.net/news/20210101/1889508.htm?from=line_et_news)** > > 台北市政府跨年晚會於1日凌晨落幕，根據市府統計，晚間人潮在晚間達到高峰，包含管制區外民眾，總計市府廣場周邊有超過2.5萬人聚集。柯文哲也證實，昨晚跨年活動，還是有抓到自主管理者偷偷外出；副市長黃珊珊證實，有30幾人外出被發現。 OTOH the Taisheng insist that, if they have taken their vaccine in China, they should have shorter quarantine or none at all… The talk show host is making an interesting point: young people can sacrifice their fun in order to protect the country - not attending the mass events for year end. But Taisheng are not willing to comply and protect others. This is one of the deep blue channels, yo. Edit: 5 in Mayday’s concert…and one attendee in panic over a fever, or so he says [https://yns.page.link/unCcw](https://yns.page.link/unCcw) ---
**Author:** ![MalcolmReynolds](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/malcolmreynolds/32/258535_2.png) [@MalcolmReynolds](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/MalcolmReynolds)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/6 "2021-01-02T06:13:46Z")
![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/b/1/b107b81bccbfe6ee5f32e2bc896725b360b6902e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![meishijia](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/meishijia/32/178949_2.png) [@meishijia](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/meishijia)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/7 "2021-01-02T06:27:49Z")
> **[新增6例境外移入COVID-19病例，分別自美國、菲律賓、英國及印尼入境](https://www.cdc.gov.tw/Bulletin/Detail/hfZ-hKyVNXfNUnCCKaUl_w?typeid=9)** US, UK, Philippines and Indonesia. No English version yet. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 6:44am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/8 "2021-01-02T06:44:59Z")
There is now. > **[Taiwan confirms 6 new COVID cases from US, UK, Philippines, Indonesia |...](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4092421)** > > Central Epidemic Command Center says total number of cases now stands at 808 | 2021-01-02 14:25:00 Guy ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/9 "2021-01-03T00:07:57Z")
“It’s remarkable that Taiwan has held the line for so long,” Dr. Wang said. But even if the island vaccinates its population by the middle of 2021, “then you’ve still got six months to go,” he said. “It’s really difficult to keep this up for another six months.” A sobering view. > **[How Taiwan Plans to Stay (Mostly) Covid-Free (Published 2021)](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-coronavirus-health-minister.html#click=https://t.co/NtG4dnn5um)** > > The island’s success against the coronavirus has created a sinking feeling for many residents: How much longer can their good fortune last? ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/10 "2021-01-03T00:49:32Z")
Love Minister Chen’s conservativism as quoted in the NY Times article linked by Icon: _“I believe there will be another wave,” he said. “Because everybody thinks, ‘I’ve gotten the vaccine, or I’m getting the vaccine next week, I’ve waited so long, I can be free now, right?’”_ _Once there is more evidence about whether the current vaccines offer enduring immunity, “only then can we really start to relax a bit,” he said._ In short: keep yourself steady for the long haul. Guy ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/11 "2021-01-03T00:52:50Z")
> [@Icon](#): > > “It’s remarkable that Taiwan has held the line for so long,” Dr. Wang said. But even if the island vaccinates its population by the middle of 2021, “then you’ve still got six months to go,” he said. “It’s really difficult to keep this up for another six months.” The Dr Wang quoted here is C Jason Wang, the Stanford University professor. I don’t claim to know more than him, but I will come out and say I doubt Taiwan will vaccinate everyone by the middle of 2021. Our first vaccines are not scheduled to arrive until March. Guy ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/12 "2021-01-03T01:21:46Z")
My last post about the NY Times piece—if forumosans have time on this Sunday morning, read the comments, which are pretty great and almost all critical of and/or puzzled by the tone of the article. Here’s one that represents a lot of responses: _Katherine_ _San Francisco, CA[1h ago](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-coronavirus-health-minister.html)_ _The tone of this article is odd and I’m not clear what the takeaway is supposed to be. Given Taiwan’s astounding success in containing Covid19, the author is surprisingly foreboding and insinuates that Taiwan’s very low number of deaths is due to a combination of dumb luck and government overreach. The Taiwanese people and government should instead be applauded for their foresight, critical thinking skills, and collective sacrifice for the good of their country. I’m quite confident, furthermore, that Taiwan’s government would handle the distribution of Covid vaccines far more effectively than we are._ As I’ve said, I have no idea what will happen with the distribution of vaccines. But given what we’ve seen so far, I would rather be here in Taiwan than just about anywhere else in the world. Guy ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/13 "2021-01-03T01:52:47Z")
Couple of points, the article uses the terms lockdown and new wave. Taiwan never had a lockdown, Taiwan never had any real wave of community infection. But I too wonder how long we should/can stay the course. I just got back from Kaohsiung where they cancelled New Year celebrations. Mask wearing is at 90% on the street from what I could see. It’s at 100% in all tourist areas. Which means the CDC has done a really good job of convincing people there is a very real danger of the virus getting into the community. Personally I don’t see it. And it feels really weird to be almost permanently masked up against a threat which isn’t really that big. My colleagues in the Hsinchu head office have been wearing masks for ten months straight now. There is no way I could have done that, not unless I was really scared that there was a life threatening virus in the community I needed to protect myself from. On the day the Iranian dickhead tested positive my company closed its gyms, closed down all activities. I can not see any causal link for this action. It’s really an over abundance of caution. Of course at the end of the day it’s about threat perception. It may be we’re virus free precisely because of the precautions taken. But it also may not be. Bottom line is we need the vaccines ASAP same as the rest of the world. ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 7:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/14 "2021-01-03T07:19:25Z")
It’s kind of weird they always get symptoms after they boarded the plane. "Centers for Disease Control (CDC) Deputy Director-General Chuang Jen-hsiang (莊人祥), who is the CECC’s spokesman, said one of the cases is a British man in his 30s who arrived in Taiwan for work on Wednesday. Upon arrival, he reported having mild nose congestion that started on Monday, so he was tested for COVID-19 while staying at a centralized quarantine facility and his result came back positive yesterday, Chuang said." ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/15 "2021-01-03T11:22:45Z")
People do underestimate the toll air travel takes on the body. Air pressure, less oxygen, results in difficulty breathing. There are also effects on the circulatory system. That said, all recent cases all took tests before coming and show symptoms upon landing or a couple days afterwards. First kid with UK variant swore he had not taken meds to lower fever. And his test numbers as well as his temperature were all over the place. ---
**Author:** ![meishijia](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/meishijia/32/178949_2.png) [@meishijia](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/meishijia)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/16 "2021-01-03T11:41:27Z")
Very true. Plenty of times I’ve gotten onto a plane perfectly healthy and stepped off with a terrible cold or fever. Flying from the UK can take about 18 hours if you need to transfer, and that’s a long time for symptoms to develop. ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/17 "2021-01-03T11:53:55Z")
A lot of “rumors” have been peddled by political antagonists. You can hear the effects mostly in the elderly folk who lap the LINE made in China bits. Basically, they claim you cannot believe the Tsai administration -it us worse than KMT!- and that according to them, old folk should not go out -well, my cousin/sister in LA/NY/Shanghai told me she can’t because the virus is rampant-… IMHO we have the opposite case as the West: we need to convince people it is OK but without letting our guard go. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 12:06pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/18 "2021-01-03T12:06:31Z")
Meanwhile, four more imported cases reported today: > **[Taiwan reports 4 new imported COVID-19 cases (update) - Focus Taiwan](https://focustaiwan.tw/society/202101030005)** > > Taipei, Jan. 3 (CNA) Taiwan reported four additional imported cases of COVID-19 on Sunday, bringing the total number of confirmed cases in the country to 812 since the epidemic began in late 2019, according to the Central Epidemic Command Center... Guy ---
**Author:** ![jimipresley](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/jimipresley/32/102867_2.png) [@jimipresley](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/jimipresley)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/19 "2021-01-03T12:18:54Z")
The vast majority of new, imported cases are Taiwanese, charging away from their lands of milk and honey. where they are making shitloads of money, for almost free medical care, and a relatively safe environment. Yet I still get glared at and avoided on the MRT? ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866/20 "2021-01-03T12:27:06Z")
> [@the\_bear](#): > > Of course at the end of the day it’s about threat perception. It may be we’re virus free precisely because of the precautions taken. But it also may not be. It’s better to over protective than under protective when dealing with this virus. That is the lesson the world has learned. What’s the big deal about wearing a mask sometimes…In reality of most of us it’s a relatively small thing. [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-2021/200866.md?page=2)