Coronavirus - Taiwan 2021

My grandma asked me yesterday if there was an issue with child abuse in Taiwan (She was taking about interacting with my 1.5 year old cousin, who has been trapped in a world of giants his “whole life” due to COVID, she didn’t ask out of the blue).
I didn’t really know what to say. I responded by saying that I don’t really agree with a lot of parenting styles, but I don’t think I’d chalk a lot of it up to child abuse (though there is plenty of beating of children and we have some families that don’t make sure their children have clean clothes or eat breakfast before coming to school in the morning, despite the fact that there could not possibly be a financial issue with those families).
Monkey see, monkey do. New parents see other parents ignoring their children while they run into the road or handing their phones to their toddlers, what other modeling do you have? I’m not going to say it’s unique to Taiwan, but I most certainly see it as more of an issue in Taiwan the US. But it’s bad everywhere.

And lockdowns have drawn attention to everyone on Earth how much responsibility teachers and other non-parent caregivers have for children and why you really do need the village.

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Indeed. How many times we have seen the accidents that happen when kids are unsupervised by their grandparents.

Or they grow up to be entitled, selfish pricks!

I’m pretty sure there’s some kind of issue everywhere. If I’m wrong, sign me up.

I think we really need the village for just about anyone too. Just take a look at how rapidly we have strayed away from towns and villages, and how that has affected our health, relationships, etc.

Someone dies inside their home of COVID and no one bats an eye until days later…

It is a matter of perspective. For me, from a third world country, Taiwan is a land of almost unlimited choices. Heck, you can open your own cafe with little money and many people are happy with that.

But I have friends who in this day and age force choices on their kids. They want them to be public officials at all costs, for example. They think that is the golden ticket, because they will have money to retire… Kid wants to be a chef, has real natural talent. Parents mock him saying he will end up flipping sausages at a night market. But if that makes them happy, so what?!

I met at least 10 people in college who were studying to fulfill their parents’ wishes, not their abilities or interests. A couple graduated, handed in their degrees to their parents and went their own way. Most didn’t. Married whom them were told to marry and worked for daddy.

Choices are only limited, in my third world mind, by money and social class. In Taiwan being beisheng or waishengren, then maybe hakka or aboriginal, might also limit choices. But mostly money, which is the access to education, or rather, testing. Tests were considered the equalizer factor, but if you see the test results, test content and delivery, it is obviously stilted.


This is the open thread, apparently. There are numerous additional threads for specific info if you’re not interested in this one:


Yeah, that’s true.

I ran out of likes to like your post.

Maybe part of it has to do with the limited opportunities Taiwan offers. In the US, you can be a cleaning the floors (not saying it is bad), and live reasonably comfortably. But in Taiwan, you would be having a little trouble making ends meet.

I think we all like Taiwan for it’s convenience. But that convenience comes at a cost when Taiwan is already a “M” shaped society like bimodal distribution. One Taiwan, two different worlds. I remember reading (yes, in English) somewhere where someone wrote if you work in Hsinchu Science Park, your future is bright; if you depend on cleaning toilets, your future on Taiwan is dim.

Now with education system change, I’m not sure it’s getting better either.

Yes :slight_smile:

This is not a bad idea though. We could just ruthlessly weed out (delete) tangents.

Isn’t that what the “Nationwide: Level 3…” thread is for? Like official announcements and no chatting?

I know this thread is long and meandering, but obviously this topic is on a lot of people’s minds at the moment.

I thought they posted stuff at the top of forumosa!

It’s more specifically about Level 3-related rules, restrictions, etc.

The education system hasn’t/isn’t changing. They changed the names of some things and passed some laws and made more work for teachers and admin, but nothing at all has been done to shift the focus away from mindless testing.

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It may not have changed for you, but the system went through a major overhaul for students. You can tell when you start to hear stuff like A+++. And now there’s the question whether to continue affirmative action.

For a country that’s so focused on testing, it would be great if they could get COVID testing fixed.


South Korea was able to do it!

Even the United States, a non-historically test-oriented country, was able to do it!


On these days of plague, I keep thinking about my neighbors. There are 6 people living in the same space -same apartment layout- as me. 3 generations under a rented roof. Grandpa and grandma retired, taking care of kids, one toddler, one barely in kindergarten. 3 young adults working hard. Dad drives beaten scooter, mom takes early MRT.

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The parents demand more testing and actually turn a blind eye to abuse at school “because that is how they grew up with”. Sigh…

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This shows how hard it’s going to be for TW to stop this thing (before enough vaccines arrive) because of large, multi-generational households.

All it takes is 1 family member to catch the virus and everyone in the household will be infected.


Holy cow.

Which is, of course, why “lockdowns”, public mask wearing, etc. are largely ineffective. They alter who gets infected. Not how many.

Anyway, as you were. Carry on panicking.