Coronavirus - Taiwan 2021

Ok let me finish then.

It is not about 500 million virus that we don’t know, it is about one virus that we know is responsible for a lot of deaths, and that we know is mutating. It is still there, we cannot afford to assume that we are done with it.

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No we are most definitely not done with it

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I was thinking that too as I looked at the path on FlightRadar - Belarus came to mind. That said though, the EVA flight from Amsterdam with a similar Cargo did overfly the PRC.

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This is almost certainly all kinds of illegal. I hope Taiwanese people flout the rules until they run out of fine tickets … but I know they won’t. The groundwork was well-laid.

What Ko even intends to accomplish with this is anybody’s guess. Hopefully he’s not actually crazy enough to give the order.

It is a joke. It’s just not remotely funny.

Of course that isn’t the choice. That’s the choice that the public have been primed for, for reasons unknown. The virus won’t “come back”. It’ll just carry on doing its thing during the “lockdown”.

Yeah, there is. It’s just not being considered.

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That’s an extremely simplistic take on CFR. There’s a lot of variables, such as how many elderly are being infected, how long the infection to deterioration stage is with some of the victims, how much the healthcare system is able to prevent fatalities and whether its ability to do so is being affected now that Taipei and NTC hospitals are being overwhelmed a bit, etc.

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A common sense public health measure of getting people to stay home in a pandemic in order to prevent disease spread is not martial law. To bandy about such a term in light of the history in Taiwan and elsewhere is mortifying.

Merriam Webster Definition of martial law

1: the law applied in occupied territory by the military authority of the occupying power

2: the law administered by military forces that is invoked by a government in an emergency when the civilian law enforcement agencies are unable to maintain public order and safety

Wikipedia

Martial law can be used by governments to enforce their rule over the public, as seen in multiple countries listed below. Such incidents may occur after a coup d’état (Thailand in 2006 and 2014, and Egypt in 2013); when threatened by popular protest ( China, Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 ); to suppress political opposition (martial law in Poland in 1981); or to stabilize insurrections or perceived insurrections (Canada, the October Crisis of 1970).

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People posting here aren’t experts but imagine if we had to convene a meeting to come up with a policy to deal with this situation.

It’s easy to realize that the decision we come up with could be worse than what a policy coming from two to three people would have been. Of course, it does depend on who the two to three people would be.

We’re simply not that good at this kind of thing.

Mortifying? :roll_eyes:

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I think they’re being sarcastic.

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Hey, hey, hey. Though I agree that ‘martial law’ should be called ‘non-voluntary restriction of movement mandated by the gov’t, enforced by police’ and ‘lockdowns’ ‘home vacations’, I think that the use of the word ‘mortifying’ is particularly negative. What about ‘non-uplifting’ as a plusgood term we could agree on using?

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So my question is for practice simulation what will we notice that is different? Taiwan News seemed to indicate drill will include store closures, restrictions on residents leaving homes, etc. However as stated Taipei Times was clearer. When it is a military drill everyone gets off the streets for a period of time. What will it be like tomorrow? The English news did not seem to communicate this well.

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None of it’s clear. Chinese-language press isn’t any better on this than what’s available in English.

I suspect they’re just making this stuff up as they go along.

OTOH it might be worth pointing out that a primary goal of psychological warfare is to keep the enemy guessing. To cause the maximum amount of fear and stress, make sure they have absolutely no idea what’s coming next.

:tinfoilhat:

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If you watch Ko’s pressers this is very obvious. He swings back and forth. One day he’ll be oh we’re all fucked, next day he’ll be, numbers clearly going down panic over. The drill is bullshit, ignore it completely, there is no legal basis for it. It’s just games for the boys.

I was just out hiking all on my lonesome and the trail passes over the Taipei New Taipei border. Laughably the New Taipei side was “shut”. Meaning, yellow tape across it. Like they think yellow tape is going to save the nation.

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We seem almost back to normal in Ohio now if you are vaccinated. I was at the grocery store tonight and I was the only one with a mask on and I’ve been fully vaccinated for a month now. My wife who is Taiwanese and I are still wearing masks to the store since our kids aren’t vaccinated.

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Good on you!

Hope you and your family stay safe and healthy.

Guy

So, will they, like, put back all those soldier shacks at bridges and other crossings between TC and NTC, like in the good 'ole days?
And allow those young whipper-snappers to have live ammo?

The virus will be hunted down with live ammunition and summarily executed :sunglasses:

Someone knows his Taiwan history.

Ah, the good old 1980s!

Guy