# Coronavirus - Taiwan OPEN June 2021 **URL:** \ **Category:** Living in Taiwan\ **Tags:** taitung, covid-19, 2021\ **Created:** [May 31, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874 "2021-05-31T18:02:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![crusher](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/crusher/32/235005_2.png) [@crusher](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/crusher)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/21 "2021-06-01T03:59:07Z")
> [@meishijia](#): > > I also noticed that this morning. My local breakfast shop that has been deserted for the past two weeks was suddenly busy this morning, and the bus stop beside it had quite a few people waiting. Maybe bosses saw the numbers going down and asked staff to go back into work? Maybe the boss was broke and the customers hungry. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/22 "2021-06-01T04:09:10Z")
[我國Moderna疫苗皆為原廠進口，請民眾安心接種 - 衛生福利部疾病管制署 (cdc.gov.tw)](https://www.cdc.gov.tw/Bulletin/Detail/5uPAIXLfNRP20QWRZQSoVA?typeid=9) Update, on Moderna vaccines. (Good news) ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/23 "2021-06-01T04:31:55Z")
And in other news: the family of the old guy who attacked the nurses wants to sue the nurses… > **[扯！持刀砍傷雙和醫院護理師　犯嫌竟嗆：留活口已經很好│TVBS新聞網](https://news.tvbs.com.tw/local/1519976)** > > 昨（31）日新北市雙和醫院發生一起病患攻擊護理人員案件，一名62歲感染新冠肺炎的洪姓男子，因為不滿被院方安排隔離，竟然拿出水果刀，攻擊3名護理師。造成一名23歲施姓女護理人員腹部刀傷緊急開刀治療、25歲陳姓護理師胸部跟右手刀傷，另外27歲蔡姓女護理師則是肚皮遭劃傷。消息一出震驚各界，全國護理師公會理事長陳玉鳳透露，洪姓男子在犯案之後，竟然還嗆聲說「留她們一條命已經很好了」。犯嫌事後還留在雙和醫院醫治新冠肺炎，陳玉鳳表示這樣的作法對護理人員造成很大壓力，實在難以令人接受。 The rest of I translate someone might have a stroke… ---
**Author:** ![Baobab](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a6a055/32.png) [@Baobab](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Baobab)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/24 "2021-06-01T04:34:03Z")
[https://udn.com/news/story/120940/5500162](https://udn.com/news/story/120940/5500162) > Lin Youchang pointed out that the case of 8220 is a 70-year-old man who went to Wanhua Xinai Tea Art House for consumption on May 10, from 1:40 to 5:30 in the afternoon. Symptoms started on May 14 for a long period of time. I went to the clinic 4 times, of which 3 times I went to the clinic. I continued to feel unwell but did not get better. I started to have shortness of breath until the 29th and went to the emergency department of the hospital. After being indwelled by a physician for inspection. Another case of a person who was sick going to a clinic multiple times without proper diagnosis. Consequence: for 15 days the man, who worked as a building manager, went to work as usual even though he was unwell. “There may be many related contacts”. ---
**Author:** ![LondonSpice](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/londonspice/32/201745_2.png) [@LondonSpice](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/LondonSpice)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/25 "2021-06-01T04:35:58Z")
> [@the\_bear](#): > > Oh god, here we go again. > > (Just getting in before I have to mute it) You come across as the Guy who sits at the bar holding court dismissing anything said by others. ---
**Author:** ![Baobab](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a6a055/32.png) [@Baobab](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Baobab)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 4:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/26 "2021-06-01T04:38:58Z")
Maybe he’s just sad because the bars are all closed? ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 4:44am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/27 "2021-06-01T04:44:47Z")
> [@Baobab](#): > > > physician for inspection. > > Another case of a person who was sick going to a clinic multiple times without proper diagnosis. Consequence: for 15 days the man, who worked as a building manager, went to work as usual even though he was unwell. “There may be many related contacts”. Shitty system, makes we wonder what is going on. Three problems here. -The clinic doc -Not being able to take sick leave and going to work sick -Not facing up to the truth until forced to ---
**Author:** ![Nevermind](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/53a042/32.png) [@Nevermind](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Nevermind)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/28 "2021-06-01T04:58:59Z")
> [@Brianjones](#): > > Not facing up to the truth until forced to You just don’t understand the culture (c) ---
**Author:** ![qwert\_zuiop](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/qwert_zuiop/32/87708_2.png) [@qwert\_zuiop](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/qwert_zuiop)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/29 "2021-06-01T05:02:30Z")
> [@Brianjones](#): > > Shitty system, makes we wonder what is going on. > Three problems here. I mostly see the issue with the clinic doc. Why on earth do the doctors simply diagnose “cold” or “flu” and give their patients some medication but don’t even consider checking for COVID? I feel like the guy is not really to blame if the the clinic and his doctor apparently just don’t care about COVID… ---
**Author:** ![Terry\_B](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/terry_b/32/82500_2.png) [@Terry\_B](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Terry_B)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/30 "2021-06-01T05:07:28Z")
I want to predict…4,200…posts in this thread before 30 June. ---
**Author:** ![Terry\_B](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/terry_b/32/82500_2.png) [@Terry\_B](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Terry_B)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/31 "2021-06-01T05:11:47Z")
Covid policy is something, from the very beginning of lockdowns last year, that I’ve viewed through the lens of motivation and incentives. For this doctor, what’s the incentive for him to diagnose covid cases? Have spendy tests in his office that patients won’t like to pay for and, if a person tests positive, either be known as the ‘covid clinic’ or be closed for a few days while authorities come in and fumigate his entire place? I know if sounds callous and, like everybody reading this, I want doctors to be above this kind of thing but it really is the simplest possible explanation. ---
**Author:** ![BigDave](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bigdave/32/181371_2.png) [@BigDave](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BigDave)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/32 "2021-06-01T05:19:03Z")
This is true. I know a guy who was crazy sick after going to Korea last January. Coughing for a month. Looking back now, he thinks he had it. Both parents are doctors and they could get any kind of test they wanted for him. Any. I was like, why don’t you get tested for antibodies? His dad had already said that finding out even 6 months later would have created a shit storm. Better not to know. Had already had the flu vaccine that year. People sadly stigmatize people who get sick here. ---
**Author:** ![qwert\_zuiop](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/qwert_zuiop/32/87708_2.png) [@qwert\_zuiop](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/qwert_zuiop)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/33 "2021-06-01T05:19:29Z")
> [@Terry\_B](#): > > Covid policy is something, from the very beginning of lockdowns last year, that I’ve viewed through the lens of motivation and incentives. For this doctor, what’s the incentive for him to diagnose covid cases? I can only compare to the reaction of doctors in Germany last year: Signs at the door that if people have soar throat, coughing, runny nose or fever, they should not come in! And the authorities telling people with those kind of symptoms to go directly to a testing station and not going to a clinic / doctor office without calling first and asking. Because also no doctors wanted their clinic being closed after some COVID patient coming in. Reactions in Taiwan just seem really opposite of that… ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/34 "2021-06-01T05:22:01Z")
Says the guy with the user name Taipei King… ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:24am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/35 "2021-06-01T05:24:26Z")
You guys did almost 10,000 last month with a good number of old farts hiding in the hills. Aim to crack 10,000. I might even put my queer shoulder to the wheel (Ginsberg reference there) ---
**Author:** ![Liberty](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/958977/32.png) [@Liberty](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Liberty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/36 "2021-06-01T05:26:13Z")
Care to explain this statement? What do we need to understand. ---
**Author:** ![Liberty](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/958977/32.png) [@Liberty](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Liberty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/37 "2021-06-01T05:27:06Z")
> [@Terry\_B](#): > > motivation and incentives. Bingo ---
**Author:** ![Baobab](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a6a055/32.png) [@Baobab](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Baobab)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/38 "2021-06-01T05:34:02Z")
In early May, the CECC started offering a $10,000 bonus to doctors who referred people for testing if they tested positive. > **[CECC offers bonus for referrals that find infections - Taipei Times](https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2021/05/06/2003756941)** > > An additional bonus is to be offered to primary healthcare facilities if they refer a patient to a designated COVID-19 hospital for testing and the result comes back positive, the Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) said yesterday. > As several... At the time I sort of wondered if they suspected something was afoot since they had never seemed very interested in testing within the community before that. ---
**Author:** ![qwert\_zuiop](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/qwert_zuiop/32/87708_2.png) [@qwert\_zuiop](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/qwert_zuiop)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:35am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/39 "2021-06-01T05:35:26Z")
> [@Baobab](#): > > In early May, the CECC started offering a $10,000 bonus to doctors who referred people for testing if they tested positive. Apparently, the bonus system does not seem to work well enough. Maybe threaten a $300k fine on doctors who ignore COVID symptoms and don’t send their patients to get tested when the patient later ends up testing positive in the hospital… ---
**Author:** ![jimbob132](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@jimbob132](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/jimbob132)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 5:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874/40 "2021-06-01T05:38:52Z")
What’s the incentive for someone to go get tested if only their doctor is pocketing that money? So they can get locked in a quarantine room the next few weeks and be out of work while their doc enjoys a nice bonus? [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874.md?page=1) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/coronavirus-taiwan-open-june-2021/207874.md?page=3)