Taichung court upholds ruling over annulment
A KMT legislator is rightly convicted for vote-buying and their party says “right, we need to ensure in the future they can stay on as long as possible - can’t let our colleagues be made to pay for crimes; laws only apply to the DPP after all!”
Personally I say good riddance to the vote buying prick, but I’m unclear on one thing, according to the Forumosan green kool-aid squad, all the courts are blue biased and only rule in favour of KMT interests and “the law only applies to the DPP”?.. That being the green party line, how did this originally guilty verdict against a KMT legislator get upheld a second time on appeal?.. 
I think that most Taiwanese see a big difference between the sleazeballs on the local level and national politics. The claims of bias generally apply on the national level. Many, many KMT local politicians have been convicted in recent years.
In this case though, the convicted legislator is claiming that the courts made an exanple of him to prove that they are not biased in favor of the Blues. Smoke that!
It is clear why they want to make it until the third trial, that way the legislators will mostly serve all their time before being annulled, which is likely only to increase the likeliness of vote buying…
Or, as my wife said, why they don’t do vote buying legal all together, and spare us the shenanigans done in every election? Only god knows what the politicians need to make these days to get elected. Let the contest begin… and they can also take away with vote secrecy…
This way, everyone would profit from elections, and abstention would be close to 0. And, mostly, politicians and parties wouldn’t need to spend millions and millions on the campaign itself, because everyone knows they will not fulfill them.
So it looks like MYJ is making good on his promise to go after corruption where ever it may be found in Taiwan. Yet to the green supporters feel this guilty verdict against a KMT member is still somehow wrong… :roflmao:
Maybe he should go on a hunger strike to make his point and gather public sympathy for his plight as well.
While the courts may be bias, there may have been a staggering mount of evidence and the courts probably had no choice but to convict him. If they do not convict him based on the overwhelming amount of evidence, imagine the public outrage.
AC, are you smoking weed or something?
Ma had nothing to do with this. It was a Green candidate who brought the case, not the government.
It is the KMT who are complaining the verdict was wrong because… their guy got stung.
It is the KMT who are proposing to change the law so that their legislators can ride out a full term or near to a full term before the Supreme Court could annul the victory.
Cueball
The KMT control everything in Taiwan. They are the richest political party in the world. MYJ only needs to snap his finger and CSB, including every DPP member, will goto prison for the rest of their lives without due process.
That’s just a show. If MYJ wanted the case tossed out, it would have been tossed out. The KMT control everything in Taiwan. Those DPP members brought up the case, because the KMT paid them to do it. Lee Yi-ting is not that popular in the KMT.
Of course the KMT control everything in Taiwan.
Remember the DPP exist because the KMT allows them to exist… :roflmao:
[quote=“ac_dropout”]Cueball
The KMT control everything in Taiwan. They are the richest political party in the world. MYJ only needs to snap his finger and CSB, including every DPP member, will goto prison for the rest of their lives without due process.
That’s just a show. If MYJ wanted the case tossed out, it would have been tossed out. The KMT control everything in Taiwan. Those DPP members brought up the case, because the KMT paid them to do it. Lee Yi-ting is not that popular in the KMT.
Of course the KMT control everything in Taiwan.[/quote]
Your response suggests that you know the KMT is heavily in the wrong but you seek to distract from that by trivialising the situation. At least now I know that you don’t really believe in democracy.
My position only reinforces your position. If you find my position ludicrous that implies your position is ludicrous.
Unless your position is that the KMT doesn’t control everything in Taiwan and that the DPP disappointing results at the polls is a result of their own corruption and mismanagement of the country…
But that would our discussion not very entertaining.
What does that have to do with you trivialising the situation? Stop trying to change the topic under discussion.
Ah, so there’s nowhere in between? Either it’s a KMT conspiracy that infects every part of Taiwan or the KMT played it 100% by the book and never took advantage of their majority in the legislative yuan to undermine the government even if that was also against what was best for Taiwan? What drivel!
The KMT earn the majority in the LY because the DPP demostrated they were corrupt and mismanged the country. Unless you don’t trust democracy, the people have spoken. They prefer the KMT over the corrupt and inept DPP at this time.
In part because that was the perception. But the constant lies and exaggerations spread by the pro-KMT media helped too. One would have thought that there was mass unemployment in Taiwan or a recession for much of the period between 2004 and 2008 given much of the reporting. The KMT blocking much of the DPP’s reform agenda also made the government look bad, despite the fact that it may well have been good for Taiwan.
The KMT didn’t trust democracy in 2004. 
Yes, the public has spoken - but that doesn’t give the KMT the right to do what the hell they please.
That’s like saying the American public preferred the Republicans over the Democrats right up until the presidental election because Bush was re-elected to power. People make mistakes - we won’t know who they prefer until the next round of elections.
So CSB is percieved to be corrupt? There could 500 million in percieved money embezzled from the ROC coffers or bullied from large companies in Taiwan?
:roflmao:
There could be a few hundred millions hidden from the Makong Gondola, the Taipei Arena or the Taipei Bank deals… but none of this is in the news, none of this is being investigated and none of this will ever be known.
Probably MYJ will be out of the presidential office before the Makong Gondola starts to operate again… or it will be Taipei’s White Elephant that no one seems to care about…
The KMT are a joke! Immediately after the court ruling, they wanted to change the law so that it would take a ruling from the Supreme Court before the annulment would be effective. At the same time, they want the compensation paid to former presidents to be revoked upon a ruling of guilty at the trial court. What a double standard!
it’s because the former presidents are not of their liking…
imagine if LTH would still be a diehard blue, if they would even think about removing his extras (if he still has some).
What you don’t see from the law that they want to pass is that this will make the legislators stay in their terms, even if they are guilty of vote buying, as the Supreme Court ruling will never come before less than 1 year till the end of their tenure, which means, they cannot be recalled.
This is a blank check on vote buying, let the fun begin…
What do you expect? The former generally applies to the KMT whereas the latter to the DPP (i.e. Chen). It’s completely unfair to expect the KMT to have to face the same sort of justice as someone else might - I mean they’re so obviously better than anyone else! :roflmao: