The voting is anonymous and this top one is regarding international travel.
- Yes
- No
- Donât know/Not sure
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The voting is anonymous and this top one is regarding international travel.
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For international travel, sure.
I was thinking about that, I guess I can make one for domestic movements and separate them.
Not before the vaccine is available for anyone who wants it.
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Iâll be Pfizered up by the 18th of this month. Unless I/m missing something I donât see how vaccine passports disadvantage anyone. Either way if youâre not yet vaccinated youâll still have to quarantine for 14 days in Taiwan and wonât be able to travel to some countries. If the vaccinated only have to quarantine for seven days in Taiwan that makes quarantine facilities more available. If theyâre able to travel to other countries sooner and things go well that will give those countries confidence to open up further.
Once the vaccine is readily available to all, then absolutely yes. For certain it should be required for international flights. It should also be required for crowded public places (concerts, restaurants, offices, public transportation).
Not vaccinated? Get vaccinated. (Unless you have a valid medical reason for not being able to). Then once the pandemic is over, we can finally go back to normal. The pandemic, after all, is temporary.
By the way, I donât like the term âvaccine passportâ. Itâs not a passport; itâs just a card showing you have been vaccinated.
Germany has something similar, an Impfausweis where any vaccination the holder got is written in. Itâs purpose is providing information for doctors and hospitals wether the holder has been vaccinated i.e. against measles or not and if the vaccination is recent. The healthcare system is not centralised like here in the so I think itâs kinda useful. But except the name, birthday and maybe the blood type, thereâs not much personal information in it. Almost no one writes their address on it. The biggest argument against it is that the darn thing never canât be found when needed
Campaign poster for measles vaccination, playing on the fact that almost noone knows where their vaccine passport is from 2017
I would not be so sure about âgetting back to normalâ.
Take a look at this current app in Saudi Arabia. Do you think it will be removed once things are âback to normalâ?
If it is for international travel, they could stick a sticker in your passport, almost like a visa. If you donât have a passport, then you donât need the vaccination stickerâŚ
Not sure if this was posted already, but the US CDC just released guidance on what vaccinated people âcan do.â Includes travel without testing or quarantine.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0402-travel-guidance-vaccinated-people.html
As long as they donât place a microchip into my body, I would take the vaccine passport. But I think itâs better if my COVID vaccination was stamped into my passport so that way it would be easier for them to see it rather than carry two documents.
Good idea.
I voted donât know because I am afraid of not being able to travel due to Taiwan crap vaccine arrangements.
But otherwise I might have voted Yes.
It will be very difficult to standardise vaccine passports. The EU will gave some green passport scheme or something .
No, for all sorts of reasons, some scientific and some philosophical. Iâm truly surprised how many people support the ongoing government obsession with COVID-19 and the accompanying destruction of every civilized ideal that weâve painstakingly developed over the past few hundred years. The idea of restricting domestic movements, in particular, is in direct contravention of the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Whatâs the point in anybody signing all this high-falutinâ verbiage if, when push comes to shove, it means nothing?
As Iâve remarked before, I think Western culture is lying dead in a ditch, and there are a lot of people lining up to spit on the corpse. Ten years from now I suspect theyâre going to regret their unquestioning acceptance of all this.
This isnât just government but related to personal and business liability .
For instance airlinesâŚCruise shipsâŚTrain operatorsâŚResortsâŚSchoolsâŚHotelsâŚFestivals.
Who is liable if they get sued ? Do they have a duty to screen for danger and also protect their staff and customers ?
It gets complicated pretty fast.
Iâve no idea. Who is liable is a ship sinks in bad weather? There are various legal principles that govern âacts of Godâ so that people arenât being sued left right and centre for things that are fundamentally outside of their control.
Vaccine passports do not âscreen for dangerâ, at least not with any degree of reliability. Believing that they do is plain old superstition. To what degree do we need to safeguard people from every improbable incident that might befall them?
My question is, if the vaccine doesnât stop a vaccinated person from contracting the Coronavirus or from passing it on. Taiwan would still need quarantine for people arriving.
So what is the passport for?
Edit/ Sorry Brian, I replied to you but didnât mean that question aimed at you.
But who will pay the insurance premiums for the added risk ?
Will passengers boards ships where half the passengers are unvaccinated?
Do the staff have a right to not work then , or should be required to vaccinate and then work otherwise they will be a risk ?
This is why you need some kind of record of vaccination .