# 🚴‍♂️ Cycling | Tour de France **URL:** \ **Category:** Sports\ **Tags:** cycling\ **Created:** [July 17, 2023, 6:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939 "2023-07-17T06:26:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hannes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hannes/32/161150_2.png) [@hannes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hannes)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 6:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/1 "2023-07-17T06:26:23Z")
Strange, there usually is a dedicated thread about the TdF somewhere on this site. I don’t watch often, but I happened to see highlights of the last two stages. Two stars, 10 seconds apart, fighting for the win. That’s cool. Guy trying to get a selfie causes mass collision, not cool. Great sportsmanship from the Dane, waiting for his rival. There have been instances where riders did take advantage of a rival crashing in the past, so this is not a given. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/j1-gUaeeq3s/maxresdefault.jpg "Vingegaard WAITS After Tadej Pogacar Descent Crash | Tour de France 2022 Stage 18") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1-gUaeeq3s) ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 7:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/2 "2023-07-17T07:51:18Z")
That clip is from last year ---
**Author:** ![hannes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hannes/32/161150_2.png) [@hannes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hannes)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 8:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/3 "2023-07-17T08:02:10Z")
Like I said I don’t follow closely… 🤦‍♂️ But the rest is correct 🙂 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Oo3J7u_sbus/maxresdefault.jpg "Extended Highlights - Stage 15 - Tour de France 2023") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo3J7u_sbus) ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/4 "2023-07-17T12:09:56Z")
In some ways though it was beneficial to wait up for the crashed rider. It was too early in the race to ride off solo. The two of them are definitely an interesting pair. Pogacar is the most relaxed cyclist I’ve ever seen. Two TDF under his belt and he’s still in the white jersey category (young rider). This is a golden age of cycling with some phenomenal talents and thank god an end to Team Sky’s monolithic dominance. ---
**Author:** ![volv1992](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/volv1992/32/105503_2.png) [@volv1992](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/volv1992)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/5 "2023-07-18T14:12:30Z")
> [@hannes](#): > > Strange, there usually is a dedicated thread about the TdF somewhere on this site. The femmes starts on Sunday, we’ve seen the light. They are better looking. ---
**Author:** ![hannes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hannes/32/161150_2.png) [@hannes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hannes)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/6 "2023-07-18T23:57:43Z")
Time trial done. That looked really impressive by the winner. ---
**Author:** ![teggs](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@teggs](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/teggs)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/7 "2023-07-20T00:48:02Z")
I’ve loved watching the TDF on summer evenings for a few years now, but these guys are just taking the piss. If Vingegaard could only gain 10 seconds on the pog in over 2 weeks and then puts almost 2 minutes into him on the ITT (this when he’s just beaten WvA, twice a world time trial championship medallist) then it makes it hard to believe. I spent last night reading [this](https://forum.cyclingnews.com/threads/jonas-vingegaard-rasmussen-the-new-alpha-mutant.38012/page-42) instead of watching. ---
**Author:** ![hannes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hannes/32/161150_2.png) [@hannes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hannes)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/8 "2023-07-20T01:04:24Z")
Tour is decided, what a shame. A bit of a downer, I kind of like both of them. When it comes to doping, I have a hard time to believe that everyone is clean, whatever that means. My only suggestion would be that all riders of past tours should be listed on the results pages, including those who were caught doping, just put an asterisk to their name and have everyone speculate about the cleanliness of those without that caveat. ---
**Author:** ![teggs](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@teggs](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/teggs)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/9 "2023-07-20T01:29:55Z")
> [@hannes](#): > > My only suggestion would be that all riders of past tours should be listed on the results pages, including those who were caught doping, just put an asterisk to their name and have everyone speculate about the cleanliness of those without that caveat. Agreed. Armstrong got thrown under the bus because he has a big mouth. Might as well let them all get juiced up and not only the few at the top. ---
**Author:** ![hannes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hannes/32/161150_2.png) [@hannes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hannes)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/10 "2023-07-20T01:43:43Z")
I am not suggesting to make doping legal. I just feel it’s moronic that some are excluded from the record books, while other, who, allegedly did the same, are still listed. If you get caught the penalty should not be stripping away the win, but tainting it so your illegal behavior is exposed without rewarding other riders who got away with it. ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/11 "2023-07-20T02:10:17Z")
Not just a big mouth. He was a kunt to so many people. ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cycling-tour-de-france/231939/12 "2023-07-20T02:12:49Z")
All sports have to follow the same rule. You get caught you lose everything. There’s no other way. It has to ruin your career. It’s the only deterrent. I mean I know it’s pretty bullshit. Wiggins was clearly guilty of using asthma medication and clearly isn’t asthmatic.