# Data Security Thread

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171>\
**Category:** Technology\
**Created:** [August 21, 2026, 6:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171 "2026-08-21T06:48:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![slawa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/slawa/32/112823_2.png) [@slawa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/slawa)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 6:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/1 "2026-08-21T06:48:33Z")

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FYI. Always physically destroy your expired credit cards. The chip and the NFC antennae.

 ![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/4X/d/a/b/dabda40f98ecfdcb716f04f88234e28d21a580b1.jpeg)

> **[Zombie Card Attack Can Revive Expired Visa Cards for Contactless Payments](https://thehackernews.com/2026/08/zombie-card-attack-can-revive-expired.html)**
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> Zombie Card rewrites Visa NFC expiry data in transit, reviving expired cards at one tested U.S. bank without breaking card cryptography.

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**Author:** ![qwert\_zuiop](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/qwert_zuiop/32/87708_2.png) [@qwert\_zuiop](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/qwert_zuiop)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 7:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/2 "2026-08-21T07:23:26Z")

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> by rewriting the expiration date a point-of-sale (POS) terminal reads over near-field communication (NFC), without breaking any of the card’s cryptography.

I do wonder how the chances of a successful chargeback would be in this case. I’d guess many banks wouldn’t check that thoroughly and simply conclude that the card was present and thus the transaction is valid. If the terminal doesn’t notice that the expiration date has been tampered with, I’d guess that the banks won’t notice either…

Also, curious if this only affects cards / terminals in the US or also in other countries.

> [@slawa](#):
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> Always physically destroy your expired credit cards

I’m still curious how to properly recycle credit cards in Taiwan.

In Europe, they count as small electronic devices and thus aren’t allowed in the landfill but have to be brought to electronics recycling centers (or send back to the bank).

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**Author:** ![Shaun008](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shaun008/32/209482_2.png) [@Shaun008](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Shaun008)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/3 "2026-08-21T14:19:30Z")

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> [@qwert\_zuiop](#):
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> I’m still curious how to properly recycle credit cards in Taiwan.

You can hand them into the bank and they will put them through their shredder and deal with it. I just shred mine myself and drop the bits in rubbish, it’s a mixed material so probably be exempt from recycling.

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**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 4:22pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/4 "2026-08-21T16:22:41Z")

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And you’re gonna throw away all that gold?

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**Author:** ![Shaun008](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shaun008/32/209482_2.png) [@Shaun008](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Shaun008)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2026, 2:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/5 "2026-08-22T02:11:53Z")

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> [@Marco](#):
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> And you’re gonna throw away all that gold?

“All that”? how many cards do you think I have.  
🙃 💰

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**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2026, 3:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/6 "2026-08-22T03:25:29Z")

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It’s gold. Ok. Shred it and give it to me.

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**Author:** ![Shaun008](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shaun008/32/209482_2.png) [@Shaun008](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Shaun008)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2026, 7:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/7 "2026-08-22T07:38:50Z")

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> [@Marco](#):
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> It’s gold. Ok. Shred it and give it to me.

Next time I shred a card you’re quite welcome to come pick it up. My shredder is P5 level so they are already in 2x6mm pieces, easier for chemicals to brake down to reclaim the gold. You can then refine it into a saleable material.

I get a new card maybe once every 3 years so if you may have a little wait.

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**Author:** ![bz](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ec9cab/32.png) [@bz](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/bz)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/8 "2026-08-22T22:29:58Z")

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> [@qwert\_zuiop](#):
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> how to properly recycle credit cards

> [@Shaun008](#):
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> put them through their shredder

For cards and other things, (e.g. phones, old flash cards, etc), if you don’t have a powerful shredder or trustworthy recycling option, you can always put them in the microwave for two seconds, (one is not enough, three is too much).

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2026, 10:30pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/9 "2026-08-22T22:30:59Z")

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So, use the 7-11 microwave?

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**Author:** ![Shaun008](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shaun008/32/209482_2.png) [@Shaun008](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Shaun008)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2026, 4:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/10 "2026-08-23T04:46:15Z")

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> [@Mr\_PBH](#):
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> So, use the 7-11 microwave?

If you put it in for a 7-11 microwave for 38 seconds it will get as hot as the sun and start its own nuclear fusion, (37 seconds are not enough, and no one has ever got to 39).  
😉

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**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2026, 6:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/11 "2026-08-23T06:11:51Z")

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So just hook up a microwave to a data center , gather up my old credit cards and bingo bango, all is well!

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**Author:** ![bz](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ec9cab/32.png) [@bz](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/bz)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2026, 7:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/12 "2026-08-23T07:58:18Z")

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> [@Mr\_PBH](#):
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> So just hook up a microwave to a data center , gather up my old credit cards and bingo bango, all is well!

[![](https://c.tenor.com/u1V_-f-jXmcAAAAC/tenor.gif) ](https://c.tenor.com/u1V_-f-jXmcAAAAC/tenor.gif)

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**Author:** ![Shaun008](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shaun008/32/209482_2.png) [@Shaun008](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Shaun008)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2026, 11:18am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/data-security-thread/259171/13 "2026-08-23T11:18:04Z")

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> [@Mr\_PBH](#):
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> So just hook up a microwave to a data center , gather up my old credit cards and bingo bango, all is well!

Self funding data security.
