Dating apps versus the approach

[Ninashka]

@Baxter

It’s not about blaming per se, more about the root of the complaint. I hear women complaining much more about something they women could do something about (“why won’t guys talk to me!”), when on men’s side you need to dig to an incel level to find that attitude. Or, women blaming men for things they themselves do, say women complaining men don’t have anything interesting to say on Tinder, but when you log on Bumble, most women’s opening line is a single “hey.”

Best policy is always to take control of your ship rather than blame the stormy seas.

Oh yes, too true. But in this particular case that you brought up, men are certainly doing their part too.

We had a thread recently where the OP admits that most women wants to split the bill on the first date and asks for advice on how to get around that, and get a lot of replies encouraging this behaviour. In Sweden men complain that they can’t act chivalrous without women taking it in a bad way. So we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t.

Referenced thread:

First date etiquette in Taiwan on splitting bill

But it seems to have worked out!