Did they really say that? if so,let's hope others follow

THIS IS A REAL BEAUTY, IT SHOULD BE ON EVERY COMPUTER AND
IN EVERY NEWSPAPER IN THE FREE WORLD!

[quote]Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday
to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off
potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders
pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime
Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists
would face a crackdown

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some
radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that
Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. “If those
are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic
state, then Australia is not for you”, he said on national television.

“I’d be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing
people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is
false. If you can’t agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy,
and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country,
which practices it, perhaps, then, that’s a better option”, Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those
with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.
Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not
want to accept local values should “clear off. Basically people who don’t want to
be Australians, and who don’t want to live by Australian values and understand
them, well then, they can basically clear off”, he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying
he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques Quote: “IMMIGRANTS,
NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation
worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since
the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the
majority of Australians.” "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled
when the ‘politically correct’ crowd began complaining about the possibility that
our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold
a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia.

“However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country,
and apparently some born here, need to understand.” “This idea of Australia being
a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national
identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own
language and our own lifestyle.” “This culture has been developed over two
centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have
sought freedom”

“We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society,
Learn the language!”

“Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political
push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles,
founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to
display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you
consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our
culture.”

“We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you
accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.”

“If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don’t like " A Fair Go”, then you should
seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our
culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things
where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.

“This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow
you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining,
and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life,
I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
‘THE RIGHT TO LEAVE’.”

“If you aren’t happy here then LEAVE. We didn’t force you to come here. You asked
to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.”
[/quote]
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American and British citizens will find
the backbone to start speaking and voting the same truths!!

Makes too much sense to be accepted by the “pc diversity is good” crowd.

Good post frogman

[quote=“Snopes.com”]Claim: E-mail quotes statements from Australian government officials about Sharia law and Muslim extremists.

Status: [color=red]True.[/color]

The individual statements attributed to Australian government officials included in the e-mail reproduced at the head of this page are thus essentially accurate, but the selectively-quoted excerpts of controversial material from different news stories create the misleading overall impression that Australia enacted a formal policy to force some Muslim groups out of the country. The statements quoted were part of the public debate over an issue that flared briefly in the immediate aftermath of the London Tube bombings, then quietly subsided.

See: [Muslims Out of Australia!][/quote]

He sounds like a classic Islamophobe to me.

We can only hope that:

  • “We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you
    accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us”

and

  • “By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others”

and other such hateful and racist sentiments represent a minority opinion in Australia.

That’s in fact what we need to do when in a moslim country … adapt to the country … therefor ‘we can’t party in Saudie Arabia’ …

[quote=“Hobbes”]He sounds like a classic Islamophobe to me.

We can only hope that:

  • “We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you
    accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us”

and

  • “By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others”

and other such hateful and racist sentiments represent a minority opinion in Australia.[/quote]

i’m baffled…
how on earth is this racist??? :s

The article could apply just as well to Western activists in Taiwan who want to turn it into a carbon-copy of their homeland.

Yeah, let’s start blowing up stuff … and all english teachers can start to indoctrinate kids …

[quote]As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own
language and our own lifestyle." “This culture has been developed over two
centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have
sought freedom”
[…]
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from."[/quote]Meaning… "It took us over two hundred years to grow into what we are today, and there’s NO DAMN WAY we’re (going to keep on) changing now! :laughing: I wonder how many contemporary Australians would enjoy Australian society of 200 years ago. I wonder how many Australians of 200 years from now would enjoy today’s Australia. Why freeze up? Let’s see, what other cultures reject change?

[quote]By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.
[…]
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
“We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.”[/quote] That’s cool. Sort of. Hardly warm, it’s liberal isolationism. “No desire to change” is foolish.

[quote]“Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.” [/quote]Uh-oh. Atheists (and agnostics?) need not apply, and better get out?

[quote=“dablindfrog”]Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American and British citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voting the same truths!![/quote]Or maybe, if we read it carefully, we’ll let the blow hard blow over. :unamused:

So…your next job you want to teach in Australia or Saudi Arabia?

It zipped right by you, didn’t it?

So…your next job you want to teach in Australia or Saudi Arabia?[/quote]I was seriously considering Dubai. Never much drawn to Australia. Don’t know why. Would like to check out New Zealand though.

And I guess that one went right by you too, didn’t it?

It’s about time that a leading politician has the guts to be able to say what the non-pc majority are thinking.

It’s not racist to say that “if you don’t like what we do leave”. It just happens that a majority of those complaining loudly enough to be heard, are done are Muslims.

If only Bush and Blair would follow suit.

Didn’t Australia send troops to Iraq? Seems like that would qualify as exporting values…

[quote=“Jaboney”][quote]As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own
language and our own lifestyle." “This culture has been developed over two
centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have
sought freedom”
[…]
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from."[/quote]Meaning… "It took us over two hundred years to grow into what we are today, and there’s NO DAMN WAY we’re (going to keep on) changing now! :laughing: I wonder how many contemporary Australians would enjoy Australian society of 200 years ago. I wonder how many Australians of 200 years from now would enjoy today’s Australia. Why freeze up? Let’s see, what other cultures reject change?
[/quote]
every counties do change,in a smooth and progressive manner,what the speaker means is that they are not willing to embark in radical changes,definitely not to suit peoples who came of their own will.
you’ll agree that not many counties’s citizens would enjoy a 200 year rollback,be it France,england or even freakin’Irak!!

atheists and agnostics hardly ever try to “force” their beliefs(or non beliefs) on others.
try and find references of atheist making poems about women of other beliefs being sluts
try and find references of agnostics stoning to death a foreign woman for not dressing “the proper way”
the list is endless

[quote=“Jaboney”]

my mistake,in my OP i should have said that the entire thing was a copy/paste of an email,although i sympathize with the views expressed,that above quote don’t belong to me

I might be walking out on a limb here, but I would hazard a guess that most Muslims believe in God too.

I disagree with a lot of what Howard says, but this much is true: If you want to live under Sharia law, don’t move to a free country; there are plenty of places like Saudi Arabia you can move to.

[quote=“dablindfrog”]every counties do change,in a smooth and progressive manner,what the speaker means is that they are not willing to embark in radical changes,definitely not to suit peoples who came of their own will.[/quote]I wonder if this argument is open to the Aboriginals? They certainly didn’t invite hordes of whitees. :wink:
And since when was change necessarily smooth and progressive? You ARE French, aren’t you? Surely you know your own country’s history?? And no, I’m not referring to the Revolution alone.

[quote=“dablindfrog”][quote=“Jaboney”][quote]“Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.” [/quote]Uh-oh. Atheists (and agnostics?) need not apply, and better get out?
[/quote]
atheists and agnostics hardly ever try to “force” their beliefs(or non beliefs) on others.
try and find references of atheist making poems about women of other beliefs being sluts
try and find references of agnostics stoning to death a foreign woman for not dressing “the proper way”
the list is endless[/quote]As I write, I’m reading Richard Dawkin’s “The God Delusion”. It’s a very good book. You should have a look.

Totally agree.

[quote]I might be walking out on a limb here, but I would hazard a guess that most Muslims believe in God too.
[/quote]

The only God, according to them…

Finally, a politician with the balls to stand up to radical muslims and the PC crowd. Good for him.

[quote=“dablindfrog”]
atheists and agnostics hardly ever try to “force” their beliefs(or non beliefs) on others.[/quote]

I guess you missed out on the USSR, the Peoples Republic of China, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, etc, etc…

[quote=“Doctor Evil”][quote=“dablindfrog”]
atheists and agnostics hardly ever try to “force” their beliefs(or non beliefs) on others.[/quote]

I guess you missed out on the USSR, the Peoples Republic of China, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, etc, etc…[/quote]

or even the US of A :smiley: