Do you think America will come to Taiwan’s aid if China attacks? Should it?

The silver lining here is that much like Russia has not been able to conquer Ukraine, the US inability to fully subdue Iran should make the Chinese on the mainland think twice about crossing the strait and finishing the civil war

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/us-military-unprepared-war-china/

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Are you American? Not sure why you’d be rooting for our enemies but okay.

The US doesnt need to subdue Iran. The US only needs to decimate it economically and militarily. The Petroyuan will never be a “thing” and Iran will never have a nuke. We Americans couldn’t care less if the Iranians duke it out amongst themselves for power.

Think Venezuela but weaker.

The US is playing around with its navy and economic power right now. Let’s see what else she can come up with.

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Point taken.

Truly the Americans of Australasia! I’ll give you that.

The US is systematically removing the petroyuan - which America has the power and choice to do.

this isn’t about nukes only…it’s about maintaining US dollar unquestioned dominance.

China out of desperation might try to break through the island chain which would include attacking or at least blockading taiwan…requiring a strong military and economic response which America has the power and choice to do…

Such a pity the US has wasted so many missiles in the last month.

Missiles? We use lasers now :united_states:

I still can’t see what he can offer besides concessions in Taiwan

Bigger concessions will mean a bigger prize to bring home. Lucky for Taiwan he can’t do much without preparing, and that isn’t his style

After the KMT taking an axe to the drone budget and parroting PRC propaganda, I’d be more worried about Trump striking a grand deal. Trump doesn’t need to prepare, they’ll have him believing he has won.

President of Peace.

I think it’s very possible he’ll give up on language, but not territory. He can’t just give away Kinmen on a whim, but he could probably be manipulated into saying he doesn’t support Taiwanese independence

He doesn’t want to lose those big money weapons deals to Taiwan, and Taiwan can afford to pay

I don’t see how USA can defend Taiwan anymore, they can’t even re-open the Strait of Hormuz.

All China has to do is drop a few bombs on the (few, well seen on Google Earth) electrical substations that power Taipei, and KHH and Taiwan will be in a humanitarian crisis with the lack of food/water in its big cities.

This is what all US Presidents the last 70 years have said, they support Taiwan status quo, not independence but also no take over

That depends on how much punishment the Chinese are willing to absorb. Hormuz is defensible because the Iranians are sitting there and on defense, the Taiwanese have the same advantage. But are the Chinese prepared to take on the air and missile power of the US?

Right, but Trump is unpresidented, and might be willing to say something different if that gets him something to claim as a win

He needs a win, both his ego and for the politics.

I’m not confident the US is willing to go that far.

America went even further for Vietnam.

A major reason for our involvement in Vietnam is the same reason for our involvement in the Middle East…we need to show our “allies” that we mean business and are willing to stick in the fight even when things get messy.

The American security promise in action.

During the Vietnam war there was battle bewteen the PLAN and the Republic of Vietnam Navy (South Vietnam) over some islands in the South China Sea.

A former US army officer was on one of islands and was captured by the Chinese, the USN declined a request for support from the South Vietnamese. In fear of being drawn into a war with China. China won the battle. That was before the Chinese build up and modernisation that we see today.

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And what has America been doing lol

China modernization = copy whatever America is making first.

And a better example of China defeating America is the body wave sent through North Korea.

Killing the Chinese 5 or 10 to 1 still wasn’t enough stop the red wave…back when they had young fanatical bodies to throw…

With regards to Taiwan - the US will throw its weight if just to show Japan, Korea and the Philippines that it means business.

In the meantime:

Not hellping an ally. They refused to provide support.

The US refusal to intercede in that battle, directly led to Chinese cosolidation of power in the South China Sea.

It’s a real coin toss all around. I wouldn’t invest in Taiwan but I wouldn’t feel the need to leave only for this reason either