I am going to try to make a long story short due to the urgency of the situation.
I took a female Dobermann (no ID, been wondering the streets in my area) to the vet to be desexed. Part of CNR is to cut of the tip of a dog’s or cat’s ear as an indication that the animal has been desexed. Only about 1-2 cm of the ear should be cut off.
When I went to the vet this evening to pick up the dog and to release her back to the area where I found her, this is what I found - see picture.
I asked the vet about this, indicating that it is a big open wound and that I am very worried about it getting infected if I return her to the streets. He said that it would be ok.
But the vet asked me to return at 9pm to take the dog cause she could not stand up. Not sure if she hurt due to the desex op or if she was still affected by the anesthesia.
I returned again at 9pm but the vet said she had to stay there for the night.
Problem solved for tonight.
But I am still worried about her wounds and I am hoping that someone can provide her with a place to stay for the next few days until her wounds heal. I will then release her to the area where I found her and continue to try to find a home for her. I am very worried about infection setting in if I have to release her to the street in her current state.
She cannot stay at the hospital cause they are apparently busy with a CNR project and I have phoned many people, none of whom can help out.
:help: Please, it is only for a few days until her wounds heal! :help:
She is a lovely dog with a good temperament as far as I can see.
Sorry for the dog…that looks like animal abuse to me.
IMO, an action such as this needs to be brought to the attention of this vet peer group governing body.
In other words, this sucks and this vet is in need of a severe “talking” to.
Take her to another vet. There are bad vets out there, and good ones that can repair the damage.
I’ve had a vet that botched a neutering on my cat leaving a huge gash on her tummy, took her somewhere else and he cut it open and closed it up properly. Another one of my cats was killed by mistreatment by a vet.
This dog (let’s call her Ellie) was released yesterday into the neighborhood where I found her. I see her almost everyday when I take Honey and Laifoo to the park.
She is a lovely dog. Seems calm and gentle.
Are there any Dobermann lovers out there? Please spread the news that she is available for adoption.
If you can add her to your website or blog, I would really appreciate it.
If you need to contact me, you can pm me or phone me on my mobile 0930590451.
Havilina - Bravo for trying to do the right thing but I think you took the wrong course with this dog with catch, neuter and release. There are bound to be people who would want a purebred dog like this, and they might even pay for it. Clipping the ear (even in the normal CNR way) has cut her chance of being adopted because of the aesthetic loss. You should have tried to get her adopted first and kept CNR as a fallback option in case there was no one to adopt her*.
Well, what’s done is done. You do have me sorely tempted. My family has a particular love of dobermans as my grandfather’s life was saved by one.
*Edit - No, you should first have taken steps to try and find the original owner, then tried to get it adopted and only after that considered CNR. By the way, do the authorities in Taibei even recognise CNR for dogs? There’s no point in releasing animals if the government is going to round them up and destroy them anyway.
OK, you told us the dog had no ID, but that doesn’t mean for sure that the original owner isn’t trying to find it. We can put up ads for dogs that we find so owners have a chance to get them back.
Sorry to criticise you, Havilina, when I am sure you are upset by what has happened, but these things need to be said.
I am truly sorry about what happened to this dog’s ear and the accompanied loss of aesthetic appearance. I felt like I took the dog to a reputable vet for a routine operation and that she ended up mutilated. I cried myself to sleep last night, questioning myself whether or not I did what was right for the dog.
I believe my decision to have her desexed immediately was the correct thing to do. It would have been wonderful if it was possible to find a place for her to stay while I try to get her adopted. With AT full, and no one responding to my previous cry for help to foster a dog (read the thread about Peking dog), I new there would be nowhere for her to stay but on the street. And as she is living on the street, I was concerned about her falling pregnant as there are several unneutered community dogs in our area. I was also concerned that she would be taken by someone who want to breed her and dump her again later.
The information I got from neighbors was that the dog belonged to “a crazy old woman” who no longer wanted the dog. We can continue to debate what they meant by “crazy” but it seems the neighbors feel that she is unable to take care of a dog.
The vet told me that it is no problem to perform the desex operation the same he does for all other CNR dogs. That is closing the wound with glue and not stiches. He assured me that it would not be a problem to release the dog the next day. I asked him if he would cut off the tip of the ear as he does for other CNR cases and he said that he would. I had no idea he would “amputate” it.
Anyhow, if someone is interested in adopting Ellie, I can only hope that they can look past the “missing ear”.
PS: Ellie also got her vaccinnation and rabies shots.
Oh, and about the CNR recognition by the government: I cannot direct you to any stats or articles in newspapers or whatever but the vet told me that from next month (15 Aug), all CNR for dogs will be free. I think this is in the Taipei City area but I am not sure. And I think it is funded by the government but again, I am not sure. Maybe someone else can provide us with more information about this.
My regular vet told me that dobermans are not popular in Taibei because they need too much space. He said she’d be more likely to find a home down south.
You did a great job. It is very difficult to do the right thing. At the moment with many facilities being full and having many pets of our own it can be frustrating when you see yet another stray dog. At the moment the best thing we can do for them is exactly what you did, which was to get her de-sexed and try to get her clipped to show she has been de-sexed so hopefully the dog catchers will leave her along. I’m very upset about the way the vet amputated her ear, it is rediculous and there is no excuse. Any experianced vet should have been able to to a much better vet. THere are only a few vets i would trust my animals to, and i think this one is now off my list.
Also send the pic to AT web master and ask him to put the pic in our adoption field with your contact number and the facility manager has a blog so do some of the japanese ladies maybe they can put her on thier blogs.
Chin up girl. you did the right thing and don’t feel bad about anything you have done, noone could ask more of you.
You did a great job. It is very difficult to do the right thing. At the moment with many facilities being full and having many pets of our own it can be frustrating when you see yet another stray dog. At the moment the best thing we can do for them is exactly what you did, which was to get her de-sexed and try to get her clipped to show she has been de-sexed so hopefully the dog catchers will leave her along. I’m very upset about the way the vet amputated her ear, it is rediculous and there is no excuse. Any experianced vet should have been able to to a much better vet. THere are only a few vets I would trust my animals to, and I think this one is now off my list.
Chin up girl. you did the right thing and don’t feel bad about anything you have done, noone could ask more of you.[/quote]
I get the position you were in.
Sure, its easy to say there are other options. But say you have this big dog…what do you do with it? How many animals do you have at your home at the moment? Quite a few right? So that was no option.
Also, looking after a dog, placing it on websites, can still take MONTHS before you even get a single reply from anyone.
Plus, there was no way you were supposed to know that the vet was going to TAKE OFF the whole bloody ear! Usually the clipping is tiny.
so, you did the right thing. If she fell pregnant there would have been many more dogs to take care of. And if anyone wanted to take her so they can breed her…shes propably better off where she is now.
A lady who walks her German Shepard in the same park as where I take Honey and Laifoo, adopted the Doberman. She also adopted the GS from the same park. Seems she likes big pure breds.
