Does the government consider you a native English speaker?

Yes you are, don’t let a forum make you think otherwise. :wink: But you should know that it’s quite uncommon for Filipinos to come here as an English teacher. Most of us white-collar workers belong in the corporate world, or hold managerial positions in factories.

But, I would strongly recommend that you follow the exact rules that both the Philippines and Taiwan have when it comes to direct-hiring Filipinos. You can PM me if you have questions that might be too confidential to share here. :slight_smile:

Once again, Mr. D, I refer you to TG’s post quoting the official government line.

If you can enlighten us about this “well documented” information, please do. :slight_smile:

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Fake news. That loophole is a myth. I’ve heard of people who’ve tried that but have been rejected or the govt has audited their school and they got fired.

It’s just like how you don’t need a degree to teach…

Really? Please tell us more.

Were these buxibans or “schools”? Did you see the rejection letters? How can we verify this?

Don’t ARCs reflect the job you have? I wonder how the Filipina English teacher I know got hers. Btw, she finished college here and was hired by a university to teach English.

I used to work as a recruiter, I can confirm it is legal to teach English if you’re from Philippines. I have helped a private school in Taipei hiring a Philippine English teacher and getting the work permit granted by the Ministry of Labor.

There would no problem to get work permit for teaching your native language.

The reason for such misunderstanding that government are not hiring Philippine teachers, is that most government public school program will state that they are only hiring teachers from “seven nations” , actually it was “Six nations” before, South Africa wasn’t included until few years ago.

The way I see it, public school programs are written long time ago, just revised a little over the years, if no one bring up the topic of changing or expanding the seven nations, it will stay there in the documents.

And to be honest, most employers are looking for a " non-asian " look, therefore Philipine teachers are often not considered as an option by the recruiting agency, because schools will turn down their resume anyway.

What a gather from the post above is that the law in Taiwan permits it and that employers who enforcce this “seven nations” thing is actually toying with the thing called DISCRIMINATION. :wink:

Anyway, I wouldn’t recommend Filipinos to teach here anyway. I think the salary they can get in other countries are way better. Most of us who don’t work as blue-collars don’t really look at that route for work atmosphere reasons hehe. Also, the visa thing could be difficult for your relatives as they always need to get one just to visit you. Unless, of course, you have your own family you’re willing to bring with you here as dependents.

Clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about and are just spreading long-standing misinformation that has not been true for a long time, if it ever was. It’s amazing how people can have the answer to a simple question placed right in front of them, but be so attached to their preconceptions that they simply refuse to accept it.

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There’s a lot of English teachers who rely on textbooks for proper grammar. I have a friend here from Montreal who can’t necessarily speak English like a native English speaker because of his bilingual past, but he’s fine. He gets by.

Ah yes. If I’d trust everything I read from a certain group on Forumosa I’d believe that I could have my local wife’s parents adopt me, and I need to pay my landlord’s taxes…

Yeah, that Forumosa place is crazy. There’s this guy there called Derpy… :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I really don’t think Tempo is the kind of person who would fabricate an email from a government office. If you can show us contradictory information from the government, please do. Any information on this topic from a school is questionable, for the reasons Huerta explained.

I would like to know how these audits work to flush out non-native English teachers with JFRV’s. Do you mean people working in “schools” (not buxibans) without teaching licenses? Nationality doesn’t matter if you don’t have a license, if I’m not mistaken.

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I know a teacher from Philipines who was born in Taiwan. He has a Taiwanese citizenship, and he’s teaching as a foreign teacher. He’s not “100%” native, but he’s doing just fine.

Since we speak English at home, I don’t care who the teacher is as long as he/she is competent and relevant.

I care more about if the teacher has patience and passion for teaching. As long as the teacher has sufficient proficiency to teach at a particular level, it doesn’t bother me much. I hope a teacher can inspire and initiate something for my kids. I try the same where I teach.

I realize I don’t necessarily speak for many typical families here, but being a native speaker isn’t the absolute deal breaker these days.

Sorry, I wasn’t meaning to target kabayan (or folks from Sri Lanka or India, for that matter), I consider them native speakers.
I was thinking more about people like Francophone Canadians, who can get visa’d and hired because of their passport, despite English being a second (sometimes distantly second) language.

Brother @Toe_Save is a lovely fellow, and can doubtless follow the play-by-play on La Soirée du hockey no problem, but you’d probably want to think twice before hiring him to teach your kids any French beyond the back of the Shreddies box, despite him being a bona fide Canooker.

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On topic, I once tried to apply for a teaching job and the wanker manager told me because my birthplace on my passport was Montreal, he couldn’t hire me due to gov regs. I told him that was wrong. I told him that I had an APRC. Yet he remained convinced that I couldn’t work legally in Taiwan. After a week of insisting that he was completely wrong, he finally figured out that he was and invited me for an interview. I go in and off the bat he tells me they pay 450 an hour and that there was no wriggle room. Shortest interview ever.

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Which means that you reject a clear presentation of the actual law, and several other confirmations, while having no evidence to the contrary. This must be an interesting group as well :smile:

When they couldn’t understand what they were saying.

The PIs were never on the “Big Seven” list

I consider myself as an English speaker…clearly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm09d4z65Bg