Dogs and ticks

Life Pets & Domestic Animals
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Really, really disgusting.

It used to be that I found those very rarely, maybe one in three months. Something is happening lately that I’ve already had the once a week encounter.

I was blaming the groomer, but actually, it seems to be somewhere close to home -still haven’t determined where. The things do not burrow into Toto’s skin, and they are easy to pick up. As a matter of fact, most of the time they are just standing on top of his head. :fume:

Now, he’s already on the Frontline regime. I worry for him, for me, and of course, the cats -even though the vet insists they won’t go for them.

Any ideas?

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Frontline is horrible. Try garlic in regular small doses.

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I cook half a clove with his cooked food -no raw garlic. When he gets raw food he gets no garlic.

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If the dog ticks, you must flee!

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:laughing:

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Why’s that? He needs raw. And I’d stop using Frontline if you’re already using (raw) garlic.

If the ticks aren’t attached, then you have nothing to worry about, as clearly something you’re doing is making Toto an unattractive host. Ticks will jump on him any time you take him for walks in grassy or leafy areas; nothing will stop that (but garlic will stop them wanting to attach, as well as boost his immune system which helps too).

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The website I take the recipes out from -about.com- says no raw garlic, so I give no raw garlic.

As a matter of fact, the chicken is cooked with the garlic, but I remove the garlic before giving Toto his dinner.

He’s having a bit of stomach problems lately -he’s taking medication for that-, so I am not giving him raw food, which in turn affects his heart -he starts panting and coughing. sigh

Now, the ticks jump off him, but how about me? Are they on me somehow, are we taking them back home to the cats?

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I don’t think dog ticks attach on humans. I have had numerous strays and spent hours pulling out the puffed up ticks from dogs, some even left sores on the dogs but i never or any family member never got them. My mum used to get annoyed because she would seem them around the floor skirting sometimes, but a good floor cleaning liquid would do the trick. Now I know to use vinegar!

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Oh yes they do. Speaking from experience here, and you know about it when they bite!!

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[quote=“Icon”]
Now, the ticks jump off him, but how about me? Are they on me somehow, are we taking them back home to the cats?[/quote]

Eat Garlic !!!

for Bruno my GR, i use a bayer (Advantix) and it works ok, actually during winter i didnt use it, ticks seem to appear only in warmer weathers so now i went back to use that stuff, its similar to the frontline drops on the back of the head…
anyways, if i wanted to use garlic, how do i feed that to my dog? i give him normal dried food that so far has given me good results.

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Processed food will keep a dog alive but is never linked to health and longevity, nor to a healthy immune system that can handle fleas and maybe ticks. I’ve found that a raw diet alone (without garlic) is enough to keep fleas at bay. For ticks, feed about 1 gram of garlic per 10 kg of dog. That may be about one clove or one teaspoon per 10 kg. Don’t worry about going over a little.

We found that feeding garlic this way was slightly more effective than putting dangerous parasiticides into the dogs’ bloodstream and nervous system (we found several ticks in total on 70 dogs, slightly fewer than when following the Frontline regimen).

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[quote=“omerojs”][quote=“Icon”]
Now, the ticks jump off him, but how about me? Are they on me somehow, are we taking them back home to the cats?[/quote]

Eat Garlic !!!

for Bruno my GR, i use a bayer (Advantix) and it works ok, actually during winter i didnt use it, ticks seem to appear only in warmer weathers so now I went back to use that stuff, its similar to the frontline drops on the back of the head…
anyways, if i wanted to use garlic, how do i feed that to my dog? i give him normal dried food that so far has given me good results.[/quote]

Also have the same problem, but even through the winter months >_<

Tried frontline, spray and drops, not effective, asked the vet and he said frontline only works for fleas, not ticks (perethryne is the active ingredient, which is the same as you use on hiking clothing/mossie nets, but its nasty stuff). He also recommended the Bayer products for ticks.

[quote=“Stray Dog”]Processed food will keep a dog alive but is never linked to health and longevity, nor to a healthy immune system that can handle fleas and maybe ticks. I’ve found that a raw diet alone (without garlic) is enough to keep fleas at bay. For ticks, feed about 1 gram of garlic per 10 kg of dog. That may be about one clove or one teaspoon per 10 kg. Don’t worry about going over a little.

We found that feeding garlic this way was slightly more effective than putting dangerous parasiticides into the dogs’ bloodstream and nervous system (we found several ticks in total on 70 dogs, slightly fewer than when following the Frontline regimen).[/quote]

Fascinating - are you doing this in a scientific manner with correct procedural backing and veternarian analysis? If so, that would be a good publish and pet owners can fund welfare groups with the $$s saved

Never knew about garlic, we just finished our frontline so will try this, and just to confirm, is that 1g per 10kg per day? Do garlic powders work?

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http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIPS/DogTip_InsectPrevention.php

[quote]Dietary additions for boosting immunity and repelling bugs:

** A half teaspoon of nutritional brewer’s yeast daily can provide the B complex vitamins a dog needs. Dr. Michael Fox has recommended brewer’s yeast or nutritional yeast (but not baker’s yeast), giving 1 teaspoon per 30 pounds of body weight mixed with the animal’s food.

** B complex vitamins - 50 mg once a day for cats and smaller dogs, and twice daily for larger dogs.

** Use Omega 3 and 6 fatty acid supplements.

** Add a tablespoon of organic apple cider vinegar to the dog’s water bowl.

** Add .a teaspoon each of safflower oil and powdered kelp or seaweed to the food bowl.

** Fresh garlic in small quantities can help repel fleas by making the animal taste unpleasant to fleas. Grate a small amount of fresh, raw garlic into your pet’s food at mealtime, about one-half to 3 chambers of the clove (chamber, not a whole clove) depending on the animal’s size. One vet recommends one crushed clove of garlic (not a whole bulb; a clove is just one chamber) per every 30 pounds. Some holistic health practitioners recommend heating the garlic for easier digestion, and to not to give them garlic every day.
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[quote=“Stray Dog”]Processed food will keep a dog alive but is never linked to health and longevity, nor to a healthy immune system that can handle fleas and maybe ticks. I’ve found that a raw diet alone (without garlic) is enough to keep fleas at bay. For ticks, feed about 1 gram of garlic per 10 kg of dog. That may be about one clove or one teaspoon per 10 kg. Don’t worry about going over a little.

We found that feeding garlic this way was slightly more effective than putting dangerous parasiticides into the dogs’ bloodstream and nervous system (we found several ticks in total on 70 dogs, slightly fewer than when following the Frontline regimen).[/quote]

I have to back up Straydog on this, my dog has been on the diet he’s recommended, raw meat, raw bones pork or beef, white vinegar, raw garlic, I supplement this with duck blood ($NT19 a pack!) and fish oil. She spends up to 3 hours a day outside although she doesn’t see other dogs everyday. She’s NEVER brought home one tick or flea. I get fleas from other dogs she meets so I started eating raw garlic myself. This dog runs in jungle everyday. The results were great.

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wa babba, youre dog looks dead healthy in that one, none of the ragged coat many black dogs here have - guess Ive gotta start reading up on that diet more

I started the raw garlic on friday night and picking off like 10 ticks that night, the number on saturday night and sunday night were “few and far between” - not conclusive I know, but just adding 1-2 cloves of finely chopped raw garlic to the dried food “is perceived” to have led to an improvement - especially since I think she is picking them up off a neighborhood dog

I will report back later

Further, we are unsure about what to do with a dog in our community “pang pang”

his owners claim he is incontinent so let him run around our community, but left their garage door open - so he still has access to shleter, I always thought there was food and water inside - the dog is old, but doesnt look too bad for his age (except a bad wheeze). Anyway, the neighborhood kids told us that the owner’s dad (old guy) told the kids they had abandoned the dog in the community and weren’t feeding him (but there is so many biandang boxes thrown away that maybe he is just scavenging loads of food)?

We really dont know what to do, was the old guy just kidding? COuld owners really do that after 10 years of loyal service from their pet? - any advice?

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If the dog has a wheeze, he needs to see a vet. Neglect is punishable under the Animal Protection Law here. We are still in the very early stages of our inspectorate and probably won’t be able to do much at this point, but we can take a look. Feel free to email me more info: sean@taiwanspca.org.

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Garlic = diarrhea in one of my dogs. After cleaning up those messes a few times I’ve avoided that in her diet.

We lost the use of the first floor of our house for months after the first lab we had taken home brought a bunch of egg laden ticks with him. I was clueless to thoroughly check him before he came in the house and paid the price when they detached. And you notice when they bite.

Frontline or other pesticides never work where we live. Nor have natural remedies. When tick season is in full swing I spend 10 minutes after every walk checking both dogs, catching crawling ticks which get deposited in a bottle of alcohol. I get quite a collection by the end of season.

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ya, our first floor start to resemble a tick factory, i kind of regretted not living next to koh san road and being able to flog them to gullible tourists!

however, after throwing out the feather duster on which i discovered they seemed to be breeding, things are tolerable - i just pick 10 off the dog and maybe 3-4 loose from the floor

the garlic seems to be reducing the number of feeding ticks, but not the absolute number, last night I still picked off almost 10 ticks (ironically while watching marley and me!), but only one was blood filled, so i think the garlic is helping, but now the ticks seem to be “migrating” more

for addition of garlic to dried food, I have refined the process, my dog isnt a fan so started to “eat around” the garlic, so still finishing the food but eating by taking a big bite, throwing it over the floor and only eating the food bits!!! Now, I add the food to the bowl and a little water, then finely chop up the garlic and mix it in before dinner - I guess now all the food tastes of garlic a little so cant be distinguished or avoided!

plan on learning more about the diet though

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In my experience, it takes about two weeks for the garlic to really make a difference.

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I’d also reccomend cleaning the floors -especially, the corners- with a solution of 1 part bleach, rest water, to eliminate any places where these fellows might hide in the house.