Donald Duck is a Fascist!

[quote]No one in the Disney universe has parents. Donald Duck is Uncle Scrooge’s nephew, and in turn Huey, Dewey, and Louie are his nephews.
This situation arises from Disney’s strict prohibition of sexual or even platonic love. Mickey and Minnie, Donald and Daisy: no where is it
explicit that these are boyfriend/girlfriend couples. The most extreme examples of the missing parents come from Disney films, where
mothers are often killed, bad, or just missing (see: Bambi, Snow White, Dumbo). One intent of this is to create a “children’s paradise,” where
they are beholden to no one. It also creates a situation where the roles of the children and adults are reversed and the adults are allowed
to regress into simpletonism (ex: when Donald and his nephews argue, his nephews are the voice of reason and are on the side of right much
of the time).

In the world where the kids are the adults and the adults are ostensibly in charge, there is a void left open for someone to fill. Someone needs
to be dominated in this universe, and Disney leaves it up to the “noble savage” to stand in this role. In a large majority of comics, the ducks travel to a foreign land in search of treasure and meet the locals along the way. These locals are depicted without fail as big, childlike, dark, and naive. The ducks (adults and kids alike) are free to take advantage of whatever the locals have while returning either nothing or something of low intrinisic value in the “civilized” world. One explicit example concerns Gu, the Abominable Snowman, who is enchanted by the magical properties of a cheap wristwatch and eagerly gives up the valuable gold crown in his cave which is “worthless” to him.

Whether they are headed to Aztecland (a stereotyped Mexico) or Unsteadystan (an extremely biased representation of Vietnam), the ducks
are almost always in search of one thing: gold. In fact, gold is the prime motivator in 75% of the comics, whereas in most
of the rest the ducks are seeking community fame and prestige in some fashion. Interestingly, whether the gold comes in the form of bagged nuggets or a pre-formed artifact, the consistent feature of these comics is the invisibility of the production chain that created the goods. In other words, there is no load to be borne by anyone from Duckburg (or for that matter, by anybody) in obtaining these objects. They are simply there for the taking; the items wait only for someone with enough intelligence to come along and make use of them.

The grand capitalist myth, that anyone can rise to the top of the pecking order if they are simply keen enough, is thus in full display in these comics. The populace in these comics is divided into three types: the inherently good Duckburgers, the evil swindlers that try to part them from their rightful gains, and the childlike “noble savages” that stand by on the sidelines. The Duckburgers are deserving of everything that comes to them because they had the right amount of genius and luck. This luck, which comes in the form of bad luck which scatters obstacles in the characters’ path and good luck which ultimately gives them their rewards, is supplied by fate and is called deconcretized work. The products are not attained through work or creative effort, but simply by a sufficiently large accumulation of misfortune or misery (they then “deserve” their good fortune in turn). Hard work (indeed, any work) is a foreign concept to them. The danger of using this foil is that people come to expect that providence is the only force determining their fortune. If they receive
any recompense, it was because of their acceptance of fate as their supreme master. (Slaves to misfortune?) In any event, the goods they
desire simply spring from Mother Earth, fully formed. It is amply shown that the other two groups cannot possible aspire to join the bourgoisie upper-class because in this world you must simply accept who you are. The Beagle Boys (part of the “thief” group) end up back in jail time and time again. The native savages are left in the same state they were at the beginning: neither richer nor poorer. Furthermore, Scrooge is often an island, reliant totally upon himself. Even if he calls in the police, he ends up having to do it all himself. He never uses his vast wealth to aid him in his quest for more. It only sits in a pile in the corner, conferring no power nor advantage to him over any competitor. He relies solely on his stores of intelligence to let him succeed.

This leads to one of the core conclusions of the book: the Disney universe never changes, and this strongly reinforces the proletariat to accept its
lot in life. Nothing material is ever formed in this world (no sex=no children, no production= no new commodities). Moreover, the accumulation of wealth leads to nothing more than further accumulation. Is Scrooge ever happy with what he gathers on his quest? The answer is a resounding no, and furthermore we never even see those things again. They are converted into more gold coins in his vault. The adventure is never spoken of again. In this sense, the Disney comics whitewash history and disallow any change from the lockstep system. The peasants in foreign lands must remain there so that they can be swindled anew the next time McDuck swings through town.

Conclusions: The book shows a much more coherent explanation of the above thesis than I have presented here (now that I reread it). Furthermore, there are many concrete examples of blatant anti-communist propaganda (a soldier says “shows you can’t trust these watches from the ‘worker’s paradise!’”, Donald successfully diverts and sells to a crowd of protesters holding “Peace” and “Love” signs, thereby showing their hypocrisy as they throw down their ideals for a glass of lemonade). These dilution strategies try to subsume unusual phenomena in society (protests, pop art) and make them banal so that the greater
social body can dismiss them as harmless. In other words, don’t worry about what that radical over there is saying, he’s either not serious or he’s just crazy.

Furthermore, if you can co-opt the symbols of a revolution you can dilute its message (punk rock music isn’t so political anymore, the reseller tells a housewife to “liberate” herself from chores by buying a new dishwasher and in doing so steals the term from the women’s liberation movement.)
Above this, there is a strong argument that this message coming from Disney is particularly insidious considering that it is certainly aimed at placating the next generation of subjugates (children reading the comics). The fact that it is “juvenile” literature gives it excess license to be fanciful and construct a world rife with “adventure,” and also gives Disney a tacit buffer from criticism since “it’s only kid’s stuff.” My fascination with the book stems mostly from the eye-opening approach to the discussion. Some parts of capitalism which have been taught to me as self-evident (in particular, the ideal of the self-made man) seem a lot more like indoctrination when you hear a socialist/communist address the issues. Many people of my generation might even snicker or shake their heads when told that Scrooge McDuck’s self-reliance is somehow a defect. Likewise, if presented with a situation where both parties are very happy with the outcome but you come out vastly ahead economically, wouldn’t you be a fool not to take it? Questions like this are never asked in an advanced capitalist society, so it was a change to read things from another angle. [/quote]

[quote]Walt took virgin territories of the U.S. and built upon them his Disneyland palaces, his magic kingdoms. His view of the world at large is framed by the same perspective; it is a world already colonized, with phantom inhabitants who have to conform to Disney’s notions of it. Each foreign country is used as a kind of model within the process of invasion by Disney-nature. And even if some foreign country like Cuba or Vietnam should dare to enter into open conflict with the United States, the Disney Comics brand-mark is immediately stamped upon it, in order to make the revolutionary struggle appear banal. While the Marines make revolutionaries run the gauntlet of bullets, Disney makes them run a gauntlet of magazines. There are two forms of killing: by machine guns and saccharine.

Disney did not, of course, invent the inhabitants of these lands; he merely forced them into the proper mold. Casting them as stars in his hit-parade, he made them into decals and puppets for his fantasy palaces, good and inoffensive savages unto eternity.

According to Disney, underdeveloped peoples are like children, to be treated as such, and if they don’t accept this definition of themselves, they should have their pants taken down and be given a good spanking. That’ll teach them! When something is said about the child/noble savage, it is really the Third World one is thinking about. The hegemony which we have detected between the child-adults who arrive with their civilization and technology, and the child-noble savages who accept this alien authority and surrender their riches, stands revealed as an exact replica of the relations between metropolis and satellite, between empire and colony, between master and slave. Thus we find the metropolitans not only serarching for treasures, but also selling the natives comics (like those of Disney), to teach them the role assigned to them by the dominant urban press. Under the suggestive title “Better Guile Than Force,” Donald departs for a Pacific atoll in order to try to survive for a month, and returns loaded with dollars, like a modern business tycoon. The entrepreneur can do better than the missionary or the army. The world of the Disney comic is self-publicizing, ensuring a process of enthusiastic buying and selling even within its very pages.

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Donald Builds Atomic Bomb, Terrorizes Civilians!

War criminal charges should be brought up against this running duck of Yankee imperialism! :noway:

I never understood why Scrooge McDuck’s entire fortune consisted of huge piles of coins sitting in an enormous vault. Sure, it would make it more of a pain in the ass to steal but it does bring to mind the “talents” parable from the bible. McDuck might as well just bury the coins for all the good they’re going to do for him.

How do you know that those coins in that vault comprised his entire fortune?

How do you know that those coins in that vault comprised his entire fortune?[/quote]

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I hope you don’t think Donald representative of the species. On the contrary, Daffy Duck fought fascism with mallets and ample bits of spattered saliva. Here he is in “The Ducktators” about to strike a blow for freedom-loving Anatidae birds everywhere:

He even took on Mussolini and Tojo:

How do you know that those coins in that vault comprised his entire fortune?[/quote]

Excellent question! When I was a kid, one of the comic books I had was the one in which Scrooge McDuck basically audited his fortune by checking the volume of his vault full of coins. Another had him conducting an audit using what amounted to a huge coin-sucking vacuum machine. In another, he had swimming-pool-like depressions in his vault to calculate his fortune by looking at the depth.

Of course some coins are worth more than others – his “lucky dime” was supposedly the key to much of his wealth. Earned as a child by cleaning up the mud-encrusted boots of some outdoorsman to shiny perfection, it was his first bit of earned cash. The temporary loss of that “lucky dime” usually led to a corresponding decrease in McDuck’s fortune (beyond the obvious loss of USD .10) and an increase in McDuck depression. The character “Magica” (the duck sorceress from those comics) spent a disproportionate amount of time trying to get Scrooge McDuck’s first dime, believing it to be a source of mystical power.

And I’m also sure that his home, vehicles, etc. were worth money as well. However, it appeared that the vast majority of his wealth was being kept in a vault in coin form, which seems like a mighty useless way to do things. Some accounts indicated that Scrooge had a separate home, while others indicated he actually lived in his vault (called the “Money Bin”).

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This leads to one of the core conclusions of the book: the Disney universe never changes, and this strongly reinforces the proletariat to accept its
lot in life. [/quote] :tic: :doh:

NOWI can see why Disney hasn’t done all black cartoon.(lion king was animals, not people) :doh:

[quote=“Namahottie”][quote=“mod lang”]
This leads to one of the core conclusions of the book: the Disney universe never changes, and this strongly reinforces the proletariat to accept its
lot in life. [/quote] :tic: :doh:

NOWI can see why Disney hasn’t done all black cartoon.(lion king was animals, not people) :doh:[/quote]

Although Disney has not done a movie cast mainly by African Americans or Blacks, they do have the “live action” Lion King on Broadway, which has a cast that is pretty much mostly Black… and is done beautifully by the way.

There’s the cartoon “The Proud Family” which airs at 3pm on the Disney Channel, which protrays an African American family.

Then there’s the TV show, “That’s So Raven” which stars African American Raven-Symon

[quote=“ShrimpCrackers”][quote=“Namahottie”][quote=“mod lang”]
This leads to one of the core conclusions of the book: the Disney universe never changes, and this strongly reinforces the proletariat to accept its
lot in life. [/quote] :tic: :doh:

NOWI can see why Disney hasn’t done all black cartoon.(lion king was animals, not people) :doh:[/quote]

Although Disney has not done a movie cast mainly by African Americans or Blacks, they do have the “live action” Lion King on Broadway, which has a cast that is pretty much mostly Black… and is done beautifully by the way.

There’s the cartoon “The Proud Family” which airs at 3pm on the Disney Channel, which protrays an African American family.

Then there’s the TV show, “That’s So Raven” which stars African American Raven-Symon

[quote=“Namahottie”]

In my book, TV shows don’t cut it. I want to see a disney movie with african Americans in it before my life is over. :s[/quote] Cartoons showing minority groups such as ducks and mice in families just aren’t enough for some people. Do the Beagle Boys really count as a white cartoon family or a cartoon family for that matter? :wink:

Has Disney ever produced a cartoon family of people who don’t have animal features?

Disney is all about equality as far as humanity goes. Disney hates all people equally. However dogs that can stand on two legs are hated far more than people in the Disney world. Pluto, who stands on four legs, is lovable. Peg Leg Pete and the Beagle Boys, who stand on two legs, are not likeable characters. Scooby Doo, a non-Disney character, stood on four legs and solved mysteries…that alone should tell the two-legged society at large something is up.

Out there somewhere there may be smurf wishing that Gargamel was coloured blue.

Scrooge? That is a dirty US culture imperialistic lie! He is called Dagobert!

… (damned name changes in German translations)

Goofy, while not technically “evil,” was not exactly lovable. You are completely right on this.

There are animals who have been used in Disney movies to serve as surrogates for black people – the crows in “Dumbo,” for example. While one might poo-poo this as reading too much into anthropomorphized animals, Disney has often lent ethnicities to animated animals courtesy of various accents and the crows do emulate “black” speech-pattern stereotypes of the time.

Regarding black people in Disney movies, I guess Disney’s efforts to seal up its copies of “Song of the South” (1946) have been successful. Jim Basket, who played Uncle Remus, was the first black live-action actor ever hired by Disney – supposedly he was not able to attend the film’s premiere in Atlanta because no hotels would give him a room.

[quote=“mofangongren”]
There are animals who have been used in Disney movies to serve as surrogates for black people – the crows in “Dumbo,” for example. While one might poo-poo this as reading too much into anthropomorphized animals, Disney has often lent ethnicities to animated animals courtesy of various accents and the crows do emulate “black” speech-pattern stereotypes of the time.

Regarding black people in Disney movies, I guess Disney’s efforts to seal up its copies of “Song of the South” (1946) have been successful. Jim Basket, who played Uncle Remus, was the first black live-action actor ever hired by Disney – supposedly he was not able to attend the film’s premiere in Atlanta because no hotels would give him a room.[/quote]

I guess he didn’t want to sleep in a car on the side of the road either. He could have gone and did what many blacks did at that time, stay bording houses. That is primarly how many black entertainers lived while on the road. I see that Disney was into ‘damage control’ very early on… :s

I never liked the Beagle Boys cartoons. The best Donal Duck ones were the ones where the nephews or Chip N’ Dale gave him a hard time. As far as comic books go, the best that I can remember is that all Disney sucked. The worse Donald Duck ones were the ones where they were all saving society or Srooge McDuck’s money. Booooooooooooring!

The Beagle Boys were just incompetent thieves. I would have preferred it if they had been unrelentingly violent or perhaps hopped up on something that would have at least made them unpredictable.

Harvey comics were the cheesiest. Richie Rich, “the poor little rich boy”? Casper the Ghost? Wendy the Witch? Richie and Casper both got movies, but Richie was just nauseating. What was the deal with him flying about in diamond-encrusted gold helicopters and flaunting his bling. One might as well fly to famine zones solely to eat sandwiches in front of starving people. I don’t know whether or not Bill Gates really wipes his ass with hundred-dollar bills at home, but at least he looks like a normal (geeky) guy when he goes out.

Don’t forget the really PC Disney Movie Song of The South While not banned -is not exactly promoted in the US

songofthesouth.net/home.html

[quote=“Elegua”]Don’t forget the really PC Disney Movie Song of The South While not banned -is not exactly promoted in the US

songofthesouth.net/home.html[/quote]

My understanding (based on limited research on the topic) is that Disney is not likely to re-release this movie anytime soon. The film has a bizarrely idealistic view of the Reconstructionist South, featuring “Uncle Remus” meddling in the life of a privileged plantation master’s boy via a whole lot of songs and stories.

Remus was a fictional character made up by a white guy writing for the Atlanta Constitution in the 1870s and 1880s – a guy whose stories had been collected from listening into the oral storytelling of slaves when he was hanging around plantations as a young poor white kid in the 1850s. The stories were recognized for their revolutionary use of dialect and were apparently appreciated by blacks and whites alike at the time. “Brer Rabbit” was apparently an actual character of those oral stories, whose roots can be traced back into African storytelling.

The wikipedia entry points out something interesting – the movie doesn’t incorporate the worst stereotypes prevalent in the 1940s but it also doesn’t do anything that would make white segregationists uncomfortable.

That’s why I like “The Smurfs”. They are hard working, and those who aren’t, are pretty useless. They achieve their goals through teamwork. And always beat the bad guy in a group.

www.smurf.com

[quote]Elegua wrote:
Don’t forget the really PC Disney Movie Song of The South While not banned -is not exactly promoted in the US

songofthesouth.net/home.html

My understanding (based on limited research on the topic) is that Disney is not likely to re-release this movie anytime soon. The film has a bizarrely idealistic view of the Reconstructionist South, featuring “Uncle Remus” meddling in the life of a privileged plantation master’s boy via a whole lot of songs and stories.

Remus was a fictional character made up by a white guy writing for the Atlanta Constitution in the 1870s and 1880s – a guy whose stories had been collected from listening into the oral storytelling of slaves when he was hanging around plantations as a young poor white kid in the 1850s. The stories were recognized for their revolutionary use of dialect and were apparently appreciated by blacks and whites alike at the time. “Brer Rabbit” was apparently an actual character of those oral stories, whose roots can be traced back into African storytelling.

The wikipedia entry points out something interesting – the movie doesn’t incorporate the worst stereotypes prevalent in the 1940s but it also doesn’t do anything that would make white segregationists uncomfortable.[/quote]

No, it’s not"Birth of a Nation" but…not really acceptable by modern standards either