Draconian immigration laws in the USSR (etc.)

None of this is true.

The most draconian immigration laws are enacted by the far left. Try leaving the USSR, Cuba, NK, etc.

Far left, far right, produces the same result.

Basically anyone in the political extremes want total isolation.

Taiwan ROC was the same back in the day.

Easy – just set your time machine to 1991. Then everyone leaves! :cactus:

Nothing left about it, they are just communists. when are people going to understand that the ‘left’ in western social democratic states is far from COMMUNISM or socialist dictatorial regimes.

That’s why I said far left…there are plenty of socialists and communists in western politics. Of course they will argue real socialism hasn’t been tried and they will be the ones to get it right this time and it won’t end up with tens of millions dead again.

Really? Which western countries have “plenty” of communists? :thinking:

The Communist Party of Canada hasn’t achieved even 1% of the popular vote in more than half a century, and the Marxist-Leninist Party never has.

Over in Europe,

  • the CPFrance has 12/577 members in the lower house and the 12/348 in the upper
  • the CPSpain has 6/350 in the lower house and 1/266 in the upper

Over in eastern Europe,

  • the CP (Serbia) has 1/250 in the unicameral legislature
  • the CP of Bohemia & Moravia (Czech Rep.) has 15/200 in the lower house

…and we can keep going farther east, but the farther we go, the more debatable it is whether we’re still in “the West” or not.

  • the CPBelarus has 11/110 in the lower house and 17/64 in the upper house
  • in Putin’s Russia, the CPRF (yes, successor to the CPSU) has 43/450 in the lower house and 3/170 in the upper house. I suppose that says something about something. :cactus:

Now if you consider South Africa western, the number there is zero, but supposedly the SACP has “influence” in the ANC through a formal arrangement – not sure how that works. Cuba and Venezuela are geographically western, but the former has long been seen as an anomaly, and the latter is… whatever it is. And whatever it is, its actual Communist Party only has 6/167.

So yeah, forgive me if I don’t exactly tremble in fear at the thought of a 2020’s Red Wave. :cactus:

Have I missed any?

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Who said you’re supposed to?

There are plenty. Did you seriously need to argue wha plenty means?

That would be emigration laws, wouldn’t it? Though I doubt if the immigration laws would be much looser- not that people were clamoring to immigrate.

By ‘conservatives’ if by definition you mean people who don’t want society to change, yeah. People from Myanmar who object to Rohingyas, Bhutanese objecting to Nepalis, black South Africans objecting to Zimbabweans

If plenty means a number we should care about because these folks are super-dangerous, then (1) why should we not care? and (2) what’s the threshold?

In Canada’s election last year, both communist parties combined had about 0.04% of the popular vote. That’s behind the Rhinoceros Party’s 0.05%, meaning the people who vote communist are less common than the people who vote-even-though-they-think-democracy-is-a-complete-joke. (Turnout was only about 67%, so far more people don’t even take democracy seriously enough to vote for a joke party.)

A survey in 2018 showed that some 2% of Americans firmly believe the planet is flat, and far more have doubts.

We could go on, but… what is the point exactly?

Oh yeah, the tyranny of exit visas. I think I can find something on that if you give me some time. :flying_saucer:

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Just wanted to throw a shout out to the Rhino party. They are next level trolling. They ran a candidate with the same name as an established candidate. Good stuff.

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