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i don’t care if foriegners use drugs. i don’ care if anybody uses them, as long as they’re not my family or close friends. i do care about people using drugs and getting in my face. i hate that and drunks.
Ya same here. So stay out of my way. 
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Who is this guy?
A couple of times recently I have been out at pubs and I have seen foreigners smoking weed in full view of the general public. Yes, inside the pub. 
I am not against pot per se, but I think the arrogance of taking drugs in such a public manner here is just plain stupid. :loco:
Not everyone likes foreigners here, and all it would take is one phone call to totally screw it for them. What also bothers me is the I might end up being in the wrong place at the wrong time should a raid go down. :fume:
[quote=“Truant”]A couple of times recently I have been out at pubs and I have seen foreigners smoking weed in full view of the general public. Yes, inside the pub.
I am not against pot per se, but I think the arrogance of taking drugs in such a public manner here is just plain stupid. :loco:
Not everyone likes foreigners here, and all it would take is one phone call to totally screw it for them. What also bothers me is the I might end up being in the wrong place at the wrong time should a raid go down. :fume:[/quote]
Exactly. I saw this type of pot smokin behavior happen in a club called Wax by a foreigner. I had some choice words with the doorman. When I worked as a doorman in Toronto, I would smash people for less. This guy was obviously disrespecting people by doing this. “Hey look at me…I’m a badass from the west…call me Wild Bill” . Fawk, do you know what a nimrod like that would get if he did that in front of a doorman at home? Ha! Trust me. Taking advatage of ignorance doesn’t fly with me either. Bloody Baboon.
I think these fools seem to forget the severity of the crime here. It’s not gonna be a quick chat or instant fine if the cops are called…
Exactly. The arrogance is astounding.
Oh and if you do drugs. So be it. Whatever makes your life easier. But be prepared to reap what ya sow. Mentally or legally. Be smart about it not smug.
What’s the Taiwanese equivalent of “Yo Bitch!”???
Ah Hei: $300NT an hour teaching 5 year olds looks pretty good now, don’t it Bitch?
What’s the Taiwanese equivalent of “Yo Bitch!”???
Ah Hei: $300NT an hour teaching 5 year olds looks pretty good now, don’t it Bitch?[/quote]
HA! 
…I believe the correct ebonical dialectic would be…"…bee-atch!
Oh please, like the average Taiwanese can distinguish between an American, Canadian, Australian, or European, so the Canada vs. U.S. crap is indeed pointless. We’re all white foreigners to them, they don’t care about our specific nationality.
As far as the foreigners smoking pot in clubs issue…I’ve seen some foreigners in clubs on E. But I’ve also seen Taiwanese in clubs sitting at a table cutting up white shit with credit cards, in full view of everybody. I even saw a Taiwanese guy cutting up and snorting at an internet cafe once ( :loco: 
you expect that kind of thing at a club, but at a net cafe!!! It was only once, though, so I scratch it up as one bizarre, isolated incident).
A course, one big difference is that likely most of the Taiwanese guys I’ve seen getting high in clubs, were “connected”, so they wouldn’t have to worry about cops, they could get away with it with impunity…though I’ve heard they have something resembling Rule of Law up in Taipei, so maybe they couldn’t get away with quite so much up there. The stuff I’m talking about I’ve seen in places like Chiayi, Kaohsiung, Tainan.
[quote=“mod lang”]Oh please, like the average Taiwanese can distinguish between an American, Canadian, Australian, or European, so the Canada vs. U.S. crap is indeed pointless. We’re all white foreigners to them, they don’t care about our specific nationality.
As far as the foreigners smoking pot in clubs issue…I’ve seen some foreigners in clubs on E. But I’ve also seen Taiwanese in clubs sitting at a table cutting up white shit with credit cards, in full view of everybody. I even saw a Taiwanese guy cutting up and snorting at an internet cafe once ( :loco: you expect that kind of thing at a club, but at a net cafe!!! It was only once, though, so I scratch it up as one bizarre, isolated incident).
A course, one big difference is that likely most of the Taiwanese guys I’ve seen getting high in clubs, were “connected”, so they wouldn’t have to worry about cops, they could get away with it with impunity…though I’ve heard they have something resembling Rule of Law up in Taipei, so maybe they couldn’t get away with quite so much up there. The stuff I’m talking about I’ve seen in places like Chiayi (Jiayi), Kaohsiung, Tainan.[/quote]
I agree and this is one of the entire points for this thread. Sad. What also pulls my chain is this Anti-American/Canadian crapola. This too feeds the fire and leads to fist fights.
Nearly all nightclubs across the globe suffer from this problem and it isn’t isolated. Thing is, I’m fine with people who are responsible for their actions. We all know the drug trade will never come to a hault. Grin and bare it. Regulating is all the law enforcement agencies can do.
The main reason why it seems that local guys can get away with it can be found in their ability for understanding of such problems (drug abuse). They believe in regulating and overlooking (under the rug). If one gangster can’t control himself he might be thrown to the dogs. A drop of a dime to the cops or buried in Yan Ming Shan. Perhaps, a fisherman off Dahxi might pick up a body for a ride if the money is worth his time. Great shrimp and squid bait.
YOu have to look hard to see (no photoshop yet) but the ‘welcoming’ sign in CKS is :
It’s in ENGLISH, and spelled out pretty clearly. And I’m sure there’s on in Keelong.
I’ve read about other Taiwanese caught in Vietnam and other SA countries trying to bring back heroin. And how many of them have to face the death penality. So, why shouldn’t it be applied here to them. I wouldn’t feel the least be sorry for them if it was. They broke the law and that’s the price you pay.
Truant, I totally gotta agree with you. (Haven’t seen that phrase around for awhile) 
I’m relaxed when it comes to this garbage. Doing or selling drugs? Meh, you really can’t do much about it except make examples of a few. I’ve said it once I’ll say it again; I just can’t stand it when people piss and moan after they get nabbed. I’ve heard every fuckin excuse in the book.
My biggest problem with the whole story wasn’t exactly the bust (it didn’t look substantial enough for me to say WOW) but it was the fact of how the original braodcast portrayed foreigners as a whole. You should have seen it. It prompted me to jump off my couch and directly onto forumosa. They even went so far as to investigate some of the local Buxibans by hidden camaera’s and asking to view the foreigners diplomas and to even look at the foreigners themsevles. HOW were the allowed to do this? WHY were they allow to do this? The people they were trying to investigate were just some poor shmucks working at the Buxiban around the corner from the news station. No relation what so ever to the people who were bit for this crime.
The bottom line is this: The media did a fantastic job of ruining the foreigners of Taiwan. Further damaging our fleeting images. Some people say that it will be forgotten in a few days. I say “YEP” but only off the newstands. It will be a talk of the town for awhile and certainly something for people to talk about at the bar or at the dinner table nation wide. Stereotypes are a bitch and the initial reporting will be etched into the brains of some of the Taiwanese. Remember how some of the Taiwanese rely souly on their knowledge from television. It’s rather amazing actually.
I recall back in 1989 a Brit (no names revealed) who was dealing small amounts of hash in the pubs in Kaohsiung ended up getting thirteen years, though I believe he actually only served about six- plenty long enough.
[quote=“Quentin”]It’s hypocrisy for them to bust drug dealers when they profit off of the drug trade.
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surely it’s just as hypocritical for drug dealers to cooperate with the police? therefore the hypocrisy balances out, leaving only people with the law on their side and people without. if you choose to be the latter then you had better know what the consequences could be.
Just make sure that you’re the one that calls the cops… 