Hello all. I’m in the process of getting legal as an alien spouse (their words) and I thought I’d tap the collective knowledge of Forumosa here.
I think I’m set on most of the application materials, but BOCA tells me I need:
6. ED card with entry record stamp copy.
Does anyone know what this ED might refer to? I wish they wouldn’t abbreviate without first telling the applicant what it means. :s
Oh, I “searched before I posted” per the instructions but couldn’t find any info. Apologies if this has been covered before. If anyone can clear up the mystery surrounding the ED, I would really appreciate it. TIA
Thanks funkymonkey. You may indeed be right. Or it may be a copy of the yellow embarkation card that’s currently stapled in my passport.
Do you know how MOFA states very clearly on every document that if there is a discrepancy between the English and the Chinese, the latter shall prevail?
Well, in looking over the items required for an “alien spouse” visa (or JFRV), there is no mention of the “ED” in the Chinese materials, so I’m going to just go with that.
If they need a record of all my entrees and sorties, well, it’s in the passport, which I will give to them. Can’t they just check for themselves? (Don’t answer that.)
If I need to go to the police station or mystery ED office and apply for some mystery ED form, I’ll let you know. This was under my radar as far as all the application materials were concerned so that’s why it came as something of a surprise when I checked again. Thanks again for your :help: .
They don’t need to check your passport stamps - they have all your entries & departures from Taiwan on computer and can easily check it.
I know this because when I filled in my tax form I had to trawl through my passport deciphering faded entry stamps to calculate exactly how many days I was in the country (well over 183, but they wanted it exactly). When I handed my tax form in, the lady behind the counter pressed one button which displayed all the information, and totted up my total days. Just because they already have the information doesn’t mean they won’t ask you to do it yourself
Yeah, the computer thing at the tax office is new in the past few years. I used to figure out all the dates and write the numbers in the tiny boxes but now I just let them call up the numbers on the screen and do it themselves. Earn your iron rice bowl, my dear civil servant!
True dat David. So has anyone with a JFRV needed to procure said document? I’m still cautiously optimistic that if the Chinese items make no mention of the mysterious ED card, I should be in the clear. This could all change tomorrow though (picture me holding up Chinese list and demanding they show me where the ED card is mentioned, security guard in the corner gets nervous…)
ED perhaps means entry and departure… you get it from the MOFA by taking your passport and paying NT$100 for a print out… looks like this below… and just because some people can pull your records doesn’t mean you won’t have to physically get it.
And some offices ask for documents others don’t :loco: :loco:
That’s a fine looking document you got there, Satellite TV. I am especially impressed by the shiny foil sticker in the upper left corner. Worth the 100 NT by itself. The best news in your post is that should I be needing this ‘card’ it sounds as though it’s available at MOFA where I’ll be anyway. Thanks. Will brave BOCA this afternoon.
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ED perhaps means entry and departure… you get it from the MOFA by taking your passport and paying NT$100 for a print out… looks like this below… and just because some people can pull your records doesn’t mean you won’t have to physically get it.
And some offices ask for documents others don’t :loco: :loco:
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There goes the paperless world, I guess it must be a nightmare for Taiwanesebureaucrats this paperless office, they can’t put stamps anymore, which they so much like to do.
Anyway, never heared about needing an ED for the JFV, must be something new to generate income. :s
There goes the paperless world, I guess it must be a nightmare for Taiwanesebureaucrats this paperless office, they can’t put stamps anymore, which they so much like to do.
Anyway, never heared about needing an ED for the JFV, must be something new to generate income. :s[/quote]
They’ve been issuing these things for years. I needed it for my citizenship application. ROC nationals need for other reasons as well, as do some foreigners.
There goes the paperless world, I guess it must be a nightmare for Taiwanesebureaucrats this paperless office, they can’t put stamps anymore, which they so much like to do.
Anyway, never heared about needing an ED for the JFV, must be something new to generate income. :s[/quote]
They’ve been issuing these things for years. I needed it for my citizenship application. ROC nationals need for other reasons as well, as do some foreigners.[/quote]
I certianly didn’t need it, but that was three years ago. Anyway, I was short a few of the things you’re supposed to have, and the girl said “just submit it anyway”. I did. It worked. I’m sure they;ve got their own list of the things they really need and the other things they put n the list just to make it difficult.
Jake, I reckon you jsut ofrget about this ED thing. If it’s not on the Chinese list, then tell them you only looked at the Chinese list.
If the clerk asked for the ED, then you need it. If the clerk did not ask for it, then you don’t need it. This is the first though that I’ve had someone ask on this type of application. It is generally not needed.
Thanks, gentlemen. Well, we passed the first hurdle today. There was a moment of hesitation when the clerk was like “ni ke neng shao le yi ge dongxi.” And I was like “no”. And then he was like “ni mei you nei ge mei guo de…” And then I quickly showed him the Affidavit Regarding Marital Status (single certificate). And he’s like “Affida…Affi…Affidav… OK”. Paid the fees (4400 NT! Not cheap!) and ran as fast as I could outta there.
About the hesitation: I was thinking maybe he wanted to see a marriage certificate from back home but of course I haven’t gotten married back home, just here in Taiwan. But I think I’m in the clear as they would have to declare their own country’s marriage certificate as invalid and I don’t expect they’d do that…
He really didn’t take too long with the originals (with their nice TECO stamps). I was like “do you want to just look at these for a sec?” And he was like “no…no…ok…ok…” Maybe I’m a little anxious that he didn’t do such a thorough job with the initial scans and we could be getting a call tomorrow saying indeed I am “shao le yi ge dong xi”. I am of course hoping that’s not the case.
Anyway, I’ll let you know any updates if they might be of interest to you. ED Card was not needed so disregard item 6 on the VE001 form from MOFA. I still might get an ED Card for the fancy foil sticker though.
Picked up the visa on Monday so it’s all good. Thanks for all the advice. For a process that should be relatively transparent, it seems as though everyone has a unique experience.
In any case, if anybody needs advice on getting a JFRV doing everything here in TW and back home remotely, feel free to send me a PM or contact me over at the Ho.
