Emergency: My bread doesn't rise

OK… It’s not a major emergeny but I can’t stomach the local bread, and I have food alleges and use my bread while traveling…
Here is the problem I hope you can find a fix for me.

  1. I have a Kaiser Bread Machine, BM???. It’s your basic bread machine available at Costco. I’ve used it for almost years, three times a week and now the heating element is not working well.
    Even in the dough cycle I noticed the the bread isn’t rising as much as it did. Does the bread machine use the heating element during dough cycle?

  2. If that is the case, would taking it out of the bread machine after the first needing cycle stops and placing the dough in a glass bowl covered by a warm towel right way instead of waiting for the completion of the dough cycle?

  3. If the bread problem in not created by the broken heating element, maybe it is caused by the water being too hot. I baked the bread in a bread-pan suggested by Dragon Bones.

  4. This is the recipie I was using. It had giving ok looking white bread for the past few years. …
    allrecipes.com/recipe/white-brea … etail.aspx

If you think the recipe check is not the greatest , I’m open to suggestion. I need a simple no dairy or egg recipe.

Looking forward any ideas… :notworthy:

[quote=“Taiwan_Student”]OK… It’s not a major emergeny but I can’t stomach the local bread, and I have food alleges and use my bread while traveling…
Here is the problem I hope you can find a fix for me.

  1. I have a Kaiser Bread Machine, BM???. It’s your basic bread machine available at Costco. I’ve used it for almost years, three times a week and now the heating element is not working well.
    Even in the dough cycle I noticed the the bread isn’t rising as much as it did. Does the bread machine use the heating element during dough cycle?

  2. If that is the case, would taking it out of the bread machine after the first needing cycle stops and placing the dough in a glass bowl covered by a warm towel right way instead of waiting for the completion of the dough cycle?

  3. If the bread problem in not created by the broken heating element, maybe it is caused by the water being too hot. I baked the bread in a bread-pan suggested by Dragon Bones. The bread does rise a little bit but not satisfactorily.

4 Maybe I did not kneed it enough while punching it down after I removing it from the bread machine Though my bread di d write very well

  1. This is the recipie I was using. It had giving ok looking white bread for the past few years. …
    allrecipes.com/recipe/white-brea … etail.aspx

If you think the recipe check is not the greatest , I’m open to suggestion. I need a simple no dairy or egg recipe. T

Looking forward any ideas… :notworthy:[/quote]
Thanks in advance.

What sort of flour are you using?
They sell three kinds in most supermarkets in Taiwan: low gluten, medium gluten and high gluten. If you have a low gluten flour, you won’t get much rise out of the dough.
Also check your yeast and make sure it’s still viable, if it’s been stored for awhile.
If you’re using whole wheat flour (sorry didn’t follow the recipe link) that can also affect rise as whole grains don’t rise as high as white flour in most cases.

I was having trouble getting bread to rise too, and it’s because the weather is cold. You do need the heating element to work in your breadmaker for the dough cycle. I got around it by putting the bread in the oven, covered by a cloth, on 30 - 40 degrees. If your oven goes this low you can do the same thing, but take the dough out of the breadmaker as this will insulate it against the external heat. Put it in an ovenproof bowl or something. You need to let it rise once like this, then knead it and let it rise again.

Or just buy another breadmaker.

You can easily check if there’s something wrong by opening the thing while the dough is rising and sticking a thermometer in the dough. It should be about 30’C.

If it seems to be also not cooking properly then the issue may be the thermostat rather than the actual heating element (which you would expect to either work, or fail completely). Although where you might get a replacement is a whole different problem…

Take the machine back to Costco for a checkup. They are quite efficient in that sense.

They alos have a new model machine, that can make cakes and jams and stuff. Maybe they’ll give you a discount?

As to the flour, there is a company in Miaoli that imports Japanese flour, awesome for bread, and delivers. Ther eis the link somewhere in here or wait till I find it… We usually buy it among 3 people and split, but you have abig family, one order would be enough.

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I’m so sorry.

Not necessarily. Could be stale yeast (did you test it? Put a tsp. in lukewarm water with a tsp. of sugar, and wait 5-10 minutes; if it’s not foamy, buy new yeast), a cold kitchen (try putting the dough, not in the bread maker, in a warm spot), ingredients with insufficient gluten (if using rye or whole wheat flour, you need to add more high-gluten flour or some vital wheat gluten – ask for xiao3mai4 dan4bai2 and add 1-2 Tbsp.), etc., as others have noted, or more than one of these factors in combination.

Another possibility is that you’ve made the dough too dry, which slows rise time. Dough should (depending on the recipe) often retain a slight tackiness or even stickiness after the first mixing. Good recipes indicate this, and adjustment is often required. One common cause is shoving a measuring scoop into the flour, which compacts the flour significantly, resulting in too much flour, thus inadequate hydration levels (dry dough). Scoop your flour using a spoon, then dump this into your measureing cup, then level it with a knife, horizontally, without compacting the flour. Better yet, switch to recipes that go by weight, and get yourself a small scale.

Not using a bread machine gives one the flexibility to time the punch-down, shaping, baking etc. according to the behavior of the dough rather than according to a dumb, preset timer. This is one of the reasons I advise people to just bake without a bread machine.

[quote] Even in the dough cycle I noticed the the bread isn’t rising as much as it did. Does the bread machine use the heating element during dough cycle?

  1. If that is the case, would taking it out of the bread machine after the first needing cycle stops and placing the dough in a glass bowl covered by a warm towel right way instead of waiting for the completion of the dough cycle?[/quote]

Yeah, try that, but a warm towel won’t contain enough heat or keep it warm long enough; try doing that atop or near a warm item like a heater, hot pad, etc. or in an oven warmed to 35 C, but watch to be sure it doesn’t overheat.

Also, your recipe called for slightly warm water. If you dip a finger in, it will be slightly warm, just barely warmer than body temp, and not hot. That won’t kill your yeast, but as I say, you should proof the yeast IN the water, with the sugar if any, and you’ll see for yourself if it’s active (foaming after 5-10 min.).

I like the IY (instant yeast, e.g. “SAF” brand) in the big foil packs from DIY baking supply shops more than the ADY (Active Dry Yeast) in the little bottles at supermarkets, by the way. Try it; be sure to store it in the fridge after opening it, and keep it in an airtight container; use within a year or so. You can reduce the amount about 20-25% if you use IY, and you can mix it straight into the dough without the proofing step for all but the driest doughs. You’ll save $ in the long run, and results are more consistent, in my experience.

Wow, thank you for all that constructive advice.

I learned a lot. first learned that the bread machine does indeed use the heating element to control temperature. I live in middle row house that doesn’t get much sun and there is really not a warm place in the house, at least at the times when I am free to make bread. I have to control the temperature.

I don’t think it is the problem wth my yeast. I’ve been making this recipe for over two years. Some times rises great, some times not but this is a consistent problem since my bread machine failed. I will try the “stronger yeast” though.

Short of buying a new bread machine, (I have to replace other things right now) I will run the kneading cycle. as soon as it stops, I will take the dough out and put it into a glass bowl, and see I can maintain an warm and not to hot environment in my oven. for the first rise.

I really want to give up the bread machine and go the mixer route, but, heck my home doubles as a school and I got young children at home too. I won’t have the time. With the bread machine, I get start it up and have the dough ready to make by my lunch break. Or have ready to eat bread with little or no trouble.

My mini bread did not come out too bad. It has a yeasty taste and a bit dense but i guess it is safe to eat. Thanks again.

Usually the freshness of the yeast and the temperature of the room should be the first suspects. Proof the yeast!

I’ve used a bread machine and made bread by hand. Using a bread machine is faster, but not by much. You’d be surprised how quick and easy it is to make bread once you’ve had a bit of practice.