English Teaching Conditions


#1

I have been thinking of finding a formal English teaching job here. Thought it would be good to get some work experience and hopefully improve my confidence and Chinese. I’ll admit all the horror stories I’ve read here has made me reluctant and I keep tossing up whether I want to do it or not.
But anyway, my impression was a typical job would be about 20 hours a week for 50-60k a month, which sounds like a pretty sweet deal. But I’ve been looking more carefully at the ads and it looks like a lot of them you only get paid for teaching hours, and you’re still expected to stick around the school, or there is lots of gaps between classes but not enough time to go and do anything else, so you’re basically spending 8 hours a day there anyway.

Is that right? It doesn’t sound so attractive to me. If that’s the case, I think I’d be better of being a wagie back home, especially with the apparent high odds of having a prick of a laoban…


#2

But I’ve been looking more carefully at the ads and it looks like a lot of them you only get paid for teaching hours, and you’re still expected to stick around the school, or there is lots of gaps between classes but not enough time to go and do anything else, so you’re basically spending 8 hours a day there anyway.

I know a lot of people where this is the case.
It ends up being a 10am-8pm kinda deal.


#3

Is there any way to avoid it?


#4

Be a public school teacher fam


#5

But that would require me actually bring qualified, lol


#6

Do you have a degree?


#7

“20 hours” means 20 classroom hours. Pretty sure that even the most seasoned, streamlined teachers will need at least an additional 2/3 of that many hours (12 to 15) per week for prep and admin. New teachers will (should) probably spend more than double that.
Your standard schoolteacher in North America generally considers 25 classroom hours a week to be a very very full schedule.
20 hours is a full time job (or maybe more).


#8

or work at HESS and teach 28-32 classroom hours and not give a damn about it and hardly prepare because you want to die.


#9

You can try obtaining a sub license. Some places are okay with it, while some aren’t.


#10

Teaching adults is much better because you can direct it as you wish unlike Hess but the pay blows.


#11

How much do adult classes pay per hour?


#12

I think he means there’s no full time gigs teaching adults.


#13

ooooh okay.


#14

it’s just a full-time job.
maybe you misread some where.

if you’re qualified, you can just start your own teaching studio / buxiban. be your own laoban.


#15

I have a bachelors but nothing teaching related and have no desire to do it long term. I just thought it would be a good way to get myself out there since I’ve never held a proper job; conditions seemed good and it’s easy enough to find something.

I’ve done a few sub jobs but they mostly just threw me in the deep end - hand me the textbook at the start of class, “here you go, good luck”. I found it very exhausting.
As I say I don’t think I have a personality suited to teaching, being very unconfident. If all jobs are as described in above posts perhaps I shouldn’t try it, but at the same time I hoped in this way I could improve on my shortcomings.


#16

Oh I’ve heard that line before. :smirk:


#17

So…your saying your overqualified.


#18

What minimal qualifications do you think are reasonable?


#19

Show up in person
Don’t be a weirdo

BAM
URZ teaching some English!


#20

Very sound advice.