# šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ŗ Europe | Choosing last country on European trip **URL:** \ **Category:** International Travel\ **Tags:** europe\ **Created:** [June 16, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757 "2022-06-16T03:17:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 3:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/142 "2023-07-17T03:56:31Z")
> [@Mataiou](#): > > Have no clue where u get ur ideas, and tbh I donā€™t want to know. I got them from the most authoritative source: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZME2dycPCEM/maxresdefault.jpg "ę­ę“²äŗŗ吵čŖ°ęœ€åƒå°ē£äŗŗšŸ˜‚šŸ”„šŸ‡¹šŸ‡¼āœŠ NORTH VS SOUTH EUROPE: WHO IS THE MOST TAIWANESE? ft. @é˜æ兜仔äøę•™ē¾ŽčŖž @Lukas Engstrƶm") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZME2dycPCEM) ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 6:59am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/143 "2023-07-17T06:59:47Z")
> [@Mataiou](#): > > > [@OysterOmelet](#): > > > > People live with their parents until they get married, lots of industries suited for family businesses, like machine tools. > > Jesus christ jumping on crutches. All ur replies on this thread r illogic. Whatā€™s the bloody point of using the economics argument regarding visiting countries? Economies have nothing to do with tourism and visiting. > > Comparing TW and Italy/Spain and whatnot is an exercise of absurdity. I am not surprised at all that u even threw in there your ā€œamericanismā€ to try to justify your nonsense. You canā€™t judge and make this type of assertions without knowing the facts, and this is something quite entrenched into what you call ā€œamericanismā€. > > Anyways, not a great loss for my country not to have tourists like u, we have millions who come instead and appreciate the place. > > I just donā€™t get u man, u r so random in many of the things u say, > > What a collection of nonsense. Haha, so true. He has s also tourist to Taiwan and also posts untrue things about life in Taiwan. Not sure how long he was in Italy. ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/144 "2023-07-18T18:21:05Z")
At the Nobel Prize Museum. Our _daiwangina_. ![PXL_20230718_150049452](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/8/b/8b86f2fd966f76122dea0c6d0ec4ca15bac27e89.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/145 "2023-07-18T23:37:20Z")
Nordic hotel breakfast, cheese and local caviar ![IMG_20230329_090917~2](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/e/6/e6db86f6e086fd58bf78972f7d55daf7320fafb0.jpeg) ![IMG\_20230329\_090917~2|666x500](upload://vWoL9B5AwViAyWcKtuyMrK7EM90.jpe (upload://z6L617assnRzLn2SBiI8lu8whZ6.jpeg) Finland cafe in Bangkok, Thai Japanese fusion food with Nordic designs, not sure shop in Taipei has cafe ![IMG_20230715_175423](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/4/e/4edb76d4f02f7e1bb82ce7b9c18830c89ad822a9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DogmaticStoic](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dogmaticstoic/32/179644_2.png) [@DogmaticStoic](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DogmaticStoic)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 11:41pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/146 "2023-07-18T23:41:53Z")
Paris, Athens, Vienna, and Munich seem to have the cheapest flights it seems. Occasionally Iā€™ve seen London not too expensive. Overall, if you can snag one of the really cheap scoot tickets that has a 23 hour layover in Singapore, Iā€™ve seen tickets as low as 15,000 round trip. Plus things in Greece are much cheaper than the rest of Europe ---
**Author:** ![volv1992](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/volv1992/32/105503_2.png) [@volv1992](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/volv1992)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/147 "2023-07-18T23:42:50Z")
> [@ChewDawg](#): > > ![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/4/1/41502d5caa5d90b9de11562b04f3942e53b2fbdc.jpeg) Rocamadour? ---
**Author:** ![volv1992](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/volv1992/32/105503_2.png) [@volv1992](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/volv1992)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/148 "2023-07-18T23:46:42Z")
> [@Mataiou](#): > > All ur replies on this thread r illogic. ![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/c/0/c0e97e0c3a49898381bcc8f2272f0a31b356fa4e.png) ---
**Author:** ![PeiHua-Connie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a4c791/32.png) [@PeiHua-Connie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/PeiHua-Connie)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/149 "2023-07-25T15:18:45Z")
> [@Mataiou](#): > > > [@OysterOmelet](#): > > > > People live with their parents until they get married, lots of industries suited for family businesses, like machine tools. > > Jesus christ jumping on crutches. All ur replies on this thread r illogic. > > Comparing TW and Italy/Spain and whatnot is an exercise of absurdity. I am not surprised at all that u even threw in there your ā€œamericanismā€ to try to justify your nonsense. You canā€™t judge and make this type of assertions without knowing the facts, and this is something quite entrenched into what you call ā€œamericanismā€. > What a collection of nonsense. How funny, is this what Americans think of Italy and Spain ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/150 "2023-08-02T13:50:52Z")
> [@Mataiou](#): > > What a collection You will have tell me in Taiwan where get this at the same price haha ![Estonia89](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/7/6/764d1d732b1b33a3f4b7842ae48f9042ffbdb815.jpeg) I prefer an espresso, which a decent one in Kaoshuing cost me NT$50, also you have any recommendations up north there (any stand up bars for espresso, reminds me some like stand up food places in Japan rail stations!, I found a few in Kaoshuing) ---
**Author:** ![Mataiou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mataiou/32/178744_2.png) [@Mataiou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mataiou)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/151 "2023-08-02T14:25:12Z")
As I said, prices r cheap in Italy, but many cafƩs have low quality. Up here in Taipei I have a few nice places where to get 50-55$ espressos/americanos and ~70$ cappuccinos. Tbh, 7-11 cappuccino is not that bad for the price, I have it from time to time when on the run to the office. ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/152 "2023-08-04T03:23:53Z")
> [@Mataiou](#): > > Tbh, 7-11 cappuccino is not that bad for the price, I have it from time to time when on the run to the office. I will try your suggestion at Sevenā€™s in Taiwan, I thought in Japan is so so, so put me off here ---
**Author:** ![Mataiou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mataiou/32/178744_2.png) [@Mataiou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mataiou)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/153 "2023-08-04T03:27:48Z")
also maccas not bad. ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 3:32am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/154 "2023-08-04T03:32:10Z")
> [@Mataiou](#): > > also maccas not bad. ha, I will not there for coffee only. Only have with the breakfast set ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 10:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/155 "2023-08-30T10:25:16Z")
> [@Mataiou](#): > > > [@OysterOmelet](#): > > > > People live with their parents until they get married, lots of industries suited for family businesses, like machine tools. > > Jesus christ jumping on crutches. All ur replies on this thread r illogic. Whatā€™s the bloody point of using the economics argument regarding visiting countries? Economies have nothing to do with tourism and visiting. > > Comparing TW and Italy/Spain and whatnot is an exercise of absurdity. I am not surprised at all that u even threw in there your ā€œamericanismā€ to try to justify your nonsense. You canā€™t judge and make this type of assertions without knowing the facts, and this is something quite entrenched into what you call ā€œamericanismā€. > > What a collection of nonsense. one thing Taiwan is copying is this paint job on train carriages, the Kaoshuing, Taichuing METRO , and Taipei METRO carriages got this paint job recently ![Miliano2](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/6/2/621f5ab7ac6c53f8b99c9bb9cb457f0e9f0e6c8e.jpeg) > **[Taiwan probes links between 3 graffiti incidents on MRT trains | Taiwan News...](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4981945)** > > Taipei City reports intrusion at Beitou Depot | 2023-08-26 19:08:00 I also saw condom vending machines in Italy and Taiwan in store fronts, not sure who was first with this Some differences, in city views. Old city streets remain in Italy, rare in Taiwan (parts of Tainan are like this, and few alleys in Kaoshuing) ![53572](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/4/7/47f9cac93a235643e665d3fbaa79134416136336.jpeg) Tainan ![53572](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/8/9/89a6f47e2480550a17ad2d1ec992ba8d2b067dc6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Malasang88](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/malasang88/32/156935_2.png) [@Malasang88](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Malasang88)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 10:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/156 "2023-08-30T10:45:51Z")
This thread reminds me how terrible food is in northern Europe. How depressing unless youā€™re really into fermented herringā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Membrillo](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/membrillo/32/139669_2.png) [@Membrillo](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Membrillo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 12:20pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/157 "2023-08-30T12:20:01Z")
> [@DKaoshuing](#): > > Some differences, in city views. Old city streets remain in Italy, rare in Taiwan (parts of Tainan are like this, and few alleys in Kaoshuing) You wonā€™t see this crap in historic areas in Europe. ![IMG_20230830_201855](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/9/a/9a0bb259a2497697c465ae8980591eac9804e73f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mataiou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mataiou/32/178744_2.png) [@Mataiou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mataiou)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/158 "2023-08-30T12:53:02Z")
U see something very similar, illegal unfinished structures everywhere in Italy. Those r shite ---
**Author:** ![volv1992](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/volv1992/32/105503_2.png) [@volv1992](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/volv1992)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/159 "2023-08-30T18:23:28Z")
Visit Reunion, and French Guiana, both 100% Europe. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Mataiou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mataiou/32/178744_2.png) [@Mataiou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mataiou)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/160 "2023-08-30T23:34:25Z")
Going to reunion in December haha, happy my Italian SIM card will work just fine there ---
**Author:** ![cdn1234](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/cdn1234/32/202817_2.png) [@cdn1234](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/cdn1234)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/161 "2023-08-31T03:07:21Z")
> [@DKaoshuing](#): > > Old city streets remain in Italy, rare in Taiwan thatā€™s just like most of the nice parts of Europe though. Like Hungary is ruining itā€™s non-opposition controlled old cities by just totally underfunding rail infrastructure and PT, and Prague comes to mind although I have hope Prag can save itself because itā€™s not ruled by retarded Orban-ites. But the rest of the nice parts of Europe - so the Continent and Ireland, minus some Soviet bloc eras, Russia for obvious reasons, certain Yugoslav cities, and ofc minus England because every second spent there not in a museum is fucking excruciating - are full of these. Itā€™s amazing how badly parts of Taiwan have urbanized really. Such a tiny well off island ought to be a mecca for it - what Hong Kong is to PT, Taiwan couldā€™ve been to urbanism. But by and large, Europe is full of little courtyards or outdoor seating and whatnot, although certainly more prevalent in the warmer countries. (I maintain HK isnā€™t great for urbanism because of all the shit they put on the side of the roads that make it goddamn irritating to get around. Just pedestrian rails to keep us out of the road all over the fucking place, especially around HK island. Kowloon is better in places.) [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757.md?page=7) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757.md?page=9)