# šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ŗ Europe | Why Europeans Think Asia is Poor and Backwards **URL:** \ **Category:** International Travel\ **Created:** [November 6, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999 "2023-11-06T14:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![HenHaoChi](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/henhaochi/32/237620_2.png) [@HenHaoChi](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/HenHaoChi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/267 "2024-07-03T01:58:53Z")
What if I am just a pallid fraud? Vitamin C and Retinol are becoming more popular on the face. Linus Pauling proved you can take 20+ grams per day. Eating tons of basil, mint and oranges have helped me a lot. Hypochlorous acid is becoming popular. PRP facials look interesting. For actual face care I donā€™t know too much. Simple soaps are best. Activated charcoal might be good too. The main problem in the consumer marketplace is price gouging. The substances are fairly inexpensive, but they mix the active ingredient with a lot of fillers, and 10x the price. So I would keep looking at the consumer beauty blogs, but buy the ingredients direct. I have to admit Koreans have maybe the best skin in Asia. Now we just wait for ethical non-human derived Regenex to be released. [Kalique Abrasax baƱo de juventud - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl1DdEfoNvI) ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/268 "2024-07-03T02:35:12Z")
> [@HenHaoChi](#): > > Now you can spend 5 bucks in 711 or Poya and get a facemask that makes you look 2-3 months younger, and 10% more, uh, vibrantā€¦ Do you have any examples of what youā€™re talking about? ---
**Author:** ![HenHaoChi](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/henhaochi/32/237620_2.png) [@HenHaoChi](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/HenHaoChi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/269 "2024-07-03T02:50:00Z")
I donā€™t use brands as they tend to have a lot of over-priced gunk in them. I bought one a few weeks back. It worked, but I canā€™t remember the name. Hypochlorous acid can be generated for pennies by mixing Calcium Hypochlorite (AKA Pool Shock) with water. It has a very good reputation in the cosmetic world. Tons of info on youtube from credible doctors with awesome skin. Activated charcoal and turmeric work too. I would do it like this: - Look for the latest cosmetic advice on youtube. Focus on substance, not brands. - Find the raw ingredients in the brand. - Order and use the raw ingredient. In Taipei, you can get most things from Tianshui Lu, 20 minutes walk from Beimen station. All I know is a ton of anti-aging protocols are being released, and it will only get better. The people doing this are making sure they hit the convenience stores first. But, as usual, whoever knuckles down and does the most boring research will reap the early benefits. Chlorophyll is fundamental too. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/270 "2024-07-03T03:11:24Z")
If thereā€™s no collagen, Iā€™m not smearing it on my face. :rofl: Guy ---
**Author:** ![HenHaoChi](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/henhaochi/32/237620_2.png) [@HenHaoChi](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/HenHaoChi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/271 "2024-07-03T03:20:44Z")
> [@afterspivak](#): > > If thereā€™s no collagen, Iā€™m not smearing it on my face. :rofl: Ha. Vit C is fundamental to collagen creation. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 4:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/273 "2024-07-03T04:53:19Z")
> [@HenHaoChi](#): > > Chlorophyll is fundamental To photosynthesis šŸ˜œ No wonder thereā€™s a bunch of green people walking around . ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 5:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/274 "2024-07-03T05:51:12Z")
> [@HenHaoChi](#): > > Chlorophyll is fundamental too. Is that why people put cucumbers on their faces? ---
**Author:** ![ChewDawg](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/chewdawg/32/174179_2.png) [@ChewDawg](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ChewDawg)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 7:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/276 "2024-07-03T07:58:47Z")
> [@OysterOmelet](#): > > Is that why people put cucumbers on their faces? So thatā€™s why itā€™s so popular with the ladies. ---
**Author:** ![HenHaoChi](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/henhaochi/32/237620_2.png) [@HenHaoChi](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/HenHaoChi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 8:12am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/277 "2024-07-03T08:12:39Z")
> [@Brianjones](#): > > No wonder thereā€™s a bunch of green people walking around . _Do you remember the Old Empire?_ Chlorophyll and Hemoglobin are similar, except for the Iron or Magnesium atoms at their core. Blue blood actually exists on this planet, in the highly coveted horseshoe crab. Blue blood is high copper, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![HenHaoChi](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/henhaochi/32/237620_2.png) [@HenHaoChi](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/HenHaoChi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 8:14am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/278 "2024-07-03T08:14:31Z")
> [@OysterOmelet](#): > > Is that why people put cucumbers on their faces? I guess it must beā€¦ I was wondering if you could get all your liquid from coconuts, oranges and maybe other fruits. Would not be impossibleā€¦ Itā€™d only cost 5-10USD a day. There must be villages in SE Asia where they donā€™t even need to drink water. 4-8 coconuts per day would be enough. ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 8:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/279 "2024-07-03T08:16:45Z")
Thatā€™s a lot of sugar, it canā€™t be good for you. Fruit juice and soda is almost the same in terms of insulin response. ---
**Author:** ![Bobc9](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Bobc9](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Bobc9)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 8:32am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/280 "2024-07-03T08:32:43Z")
Speaking purely anecdotally, but in Germany there is an observable increase in interest in East (Far east) Asian cultures - with Korea being the prime target. This happened exactly during 2020 and continues to this day. Also, I visited Taipei this April / May and have never seen so many exchange students (particularly from the EU and South America) in my life, especially at Maji Square and Xinyi. Back in the day (2010) there were like 10 in the entire Taipei Metropolitan area. Iā€™m not sure many of these people think Taiwan is backwards - perhaps in areas like traffic or waste water management, yes - but overall, they see Taiwan as a (mostly) developed country. ---
**Author:** ![HenHaoChi](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/henhaochi/32/237620_2.png) [@HenHaoChi](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/HenHaoChi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 9:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/281 "2024-07-03T09:47:42Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > Thatā€™s a lot of sugar, it canā€™t be good for you. Fruit juice and soda is almost the same in terms of insulin response. Thanks for that advice. Are you a fitness freak? Diet expert? ---
**Author:** ![Mataiou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mataiou/32/178744_2.png) [@Mataiou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mataiou)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 9:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/282 "2024-07-03T09:53:45Z")
he is all things expert mate, trust himā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![HenHaoChi](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/henhaochi/32/237620_2.png) [@HenHaoChi](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/HenHaoChi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 10:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/283 "2024-07-03T10:26:23Z")
> [@Mataiou](#): > > he is all things expert mate, trust himā€¦ Why isnā€™t he working at NASA? ---
**Author:** ![SuperS54](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/supers54/32/137985_2.png) [@SuperS54](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SuperS54)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/284 "2024-07-03T12:39:49Z")
> [@HenHaoChi](#): > > Why isnā€™t he working at NASA? It starts with an ā€˜Nā€™ (or any random reason that comes into your head). ---
**Author:** ![Andrew](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew/32/179806_2.png) [@Andrew](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/285 "2024-07-03T13:02:48Z")
> [@HenHaoChi](#): > > Why isnā€™t he working at NASA? Aerospace is too niche a field. When youā€™ve got someone whoā€™s an expert in absolutely everything, it would be a waste to overspecialize. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/286 "2024-07-03T20:33:48Z")
> [@Brianjones](#): > > Just think that you are slightly ahead of the pack as much ch as it goes against you it will work for you. > Korean cosmetic companies are gargantuan with massive research budgets, I have worked with a few sometime back. While itā€™s true the EU/UK has some of the strictest safety regulations. I can tell you regulators donā€™t really enforce much of it. For example virtually everyone ignored no animal testing for ingredients because it was just not practical in many situations. You really just have to trust the manufacturer or the brand that will make sure the manufacturer is doing things right. Most of the testing compliance can be self reported to the regulatory body. Regulators donā€™t step in unless your products start to hurt people in most cases. I can see some of my competitors packaging and itā€™s not compliant for example. Itā€™s not as regulated in reality as people might think. ---
**Author:** ![yyy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/yyy/32/12085_2.png) [@yyy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/yyy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/287 "2024-07-13T19:49:56Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > Thatā€™s a lot of sugar, it canā€™t be good for you. Fruit juice and soda is almost the same in terms of insulin response. Depends on which variety of coconut and how mature. Just sayinā€™. ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999/288 "2024-07-31T20:52:46Z")
I met this guy in TĆ¼rkiye who said, ā€œSnapdragon is from Taiwan. Sensors. No Taiwan, no sensors.ā€ Not 100% accurate but šŸ‘ for Turkiye. They know Taiwanā€™s importance. [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999.md?page=13) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-why-europeans-think-asia-is-poor-and-backwards/234999.md?page=15)