Jerry Falwell is finally dead – now Tinky-Winky and Happy Feet’s Mumble are free to make love to each other, if that’s what they really want. I don’t take any pleasure from Falwell’s death, but that overbearing windbag ceased being a postive force for anything in the past several decades.
I still haven’t found it in my heart to forgive him for his post-9/11 ramblings:
For a “man of God” he sure spent a lot of time judging people, pointing out the “motes in their eyes”. May he rest in peace and be promptly forgotten.
Do you also hate all the lefties who came out to comment likewise that America deserved 911? Michael Moore? Noam Chomsky? Susan Sontag? Just curious what objective you are basing your “outrage” on but looking forward to reading more of it on Saturday. Excellent stuff!
But I think Fred’s still alive. Yep, there it is, a typical snivelling side swap at his pet hates in a post just after yours.
C’mon Freddles, defend Falwell, if you can, that’s who we are talking about. Those reds that disturb you dreams with their constant polemics under your bed simply don’t occupy this thread.
Fuck Falwell for his cynical exploitation of the would be religious, but clearly stupid.
Aside from his constant bashing of gays, lesbians and feminists, let’s not forget his preaching in support of segregation, because blacks are the inferior descendents of Ham (Noah’s brother, not the pork product).
[quote]Here’s Falwell preaching in 1958, quoted in a Washington Post profile in 1988 by Walt Harrington:
"‘In this message,’ Falwell intoned pompously, ‘I want to use the Bible alone as our guide. It is never worthwhile to give man’s opinion…The answer to the whole subject can be found in Genesis 9:18-27.’ Falwell went on to explain that Ham, the son of Noah, had seen Noah naked one day. When Noah discovered this, he cursed Ham’s son, Canaan: ‘A servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.’ Falwell explained that Ham later became the progenitor of the African race.
"He rambled on, still using ‘the Bible alone’ as his guide: 'The true Negro does not want integration…He realizes his potential is far better among his own race…We see the hand of Moscow in the background…We see the Devil himself behind it…It will destroy our race eventually…In one northern city, a pastor friend of mine tells me that a couple of opposite race live next door to his church as man and wife …It boils down to whether we are going to take God’s Word as final.’
“Oblivious to the hatefulness of his sermon, Falwell concluded: ‘…If we live in constant fellowship with the Lord, He can enable us to live Christ-like before others.’”[/quote] rudepundit.blogspot.com/
Do you also hate all the lefties who came out to comment likewise that America deserved 911? Michael Moore? Noam Chomsky? Susan Sontag? Just curious what objective you are basing your “outrage” on but looking forward to reading more of it on Saturday. Excellent stuff![/quote]
I don’t think America deserved 9-11. However, has Michael Moore said anything of the sort? Just curious, as it would seem that his entire Farenheight 9/11 movie would appear to run contrary to that – he quite directly points the finger at Bush as being very lazy and incurious about going after OBL or doing the things that might have prevented 9/11 from happening.
I’ve never been a fan of Noam Chomsky and don’t really give a darn about Sontag, but do you have any quotes? I was able to provide Falwell’s quote, but you haven’t put anything forward. Thanks for playing.
Why not? He didn’t hold back on insulting live people while he was pickpocketing his gullible followers. I am glad he is dead. His existence was a disservice to everyone, especially those dumb enough to hand over wads of cash to this racist, sexist, homophobic, self-enriching, intolerant, bigot.
Falwell doesn’t deserve to be respected now simply by being dead. Ditto other dead people. Being dead doesn’t mean one has to be nice to them. When he was alive he was a ct. Now he’s a dead ct. Simple.
If I wasn’t worried about falling in, I’d dump on his casket too.
[quote]Rita Perez, from Hoboken, New Jersey writes:
I read an old rum advertisement that had an interview with you. Is it true that the first time you made love to a woman was in an outhouse with your mother? Please clear this up good Reverend. I’m sure there is a really good explanation for all of this. Thank you and God Bless You!
Rev. Dr. Jerry Falwell:
Rita, I’m afraid you’re confusing reality with a certain so-called “parody” advertisement from a 1983 issue of Hustler Magazine. I still remember the first time I read that awful thing: I was enjoying breakfast in my kitchen, righteously poring over my daily foot-high stack of mostly gay hardcore pornography so that I might issue informed denunciations to my flock. I had just paused to admire the contours of my third helping of some especially handsome kielbasa, when suddenly there was that awful parody staring at me from the pages of Hustler! Of course, I couldn’t help but worry that decent folks like you might be misled while reading their hardcore pornography, which is why I sued pasty paraplegic pervert Larry Flynt all the way to the Supreme Court. Tragically for America, I lost that case too, and the awful misconception to which you refer has been allowed to flourish as a result.
For the record: my first time was not with my mother in an outhouse. It was with my father in a bathhouse.[/quote]
Were you as critical when hero of the “New Left,” former Arkansas Senator William Fulbright died? Liberals of your ilk, including Bill Clinton, lauded his anti war position on Vietnam and the educational scholarship programs he set up. However, they surely didn’t talk too much when he died about his less than stellar position on civil rights or his anti-Semitism (as a student at Oxford, Fulbright called Eastern European Jews animals. His positions against Israel while serving in the Senate were well known).
Falwell was well liked in person by former opponents such as Larry Flynt. He also was an approachable administator at Liberty University who was well loved by his students. Personally, I don’t agree with a lot of his positions, but he definitely left a legacy in politics. He revolutionized the “religious right” and organized them into a powerful force in politics.
[quote]Faith-Based Fraud
Jerry Falwell’s foul rantings prove you can get away with anything if you have “Reverend” in front of your name.
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Wednesday, May 16, 2007, at 12:46 PM ET
The discovery of the carcass of Jerry Falwell on the floor of an obscure office in Virginia has almost zero significance, except perhaps for two categories of the species labeled “credulous idiot.” The first such category consists of those who expected Falwell (and themselves) to be bodily raptured out of the biosphere and assumed into the heavens, leaving pilotless planes and driverless trucks and taxis to crash with their innocent victims as collateral damage. This group is so stupid and uncultured that it may perhaps be forgiven. It is so far “left behind” that almost its only pleasure is to gloat at the idea of others being abandoned in the same condition . . .
. . . Like many fanatical preachers, Falwell was especially disgusting in exuding an almost sexless personality while railing from dawn to dusk about the sex lives of others. His obsession with homosexuality was on a par with his lip-smacking evocations of hellfire. From his wobbly base of opportunist fund raising and degree-mill money-spinning in Lynchburg, Va., he set out to puddle his sausage-sized fingers into the intimate arrangements of people who had done no harm. Men of this type, if they cannot persuade enough foolish people to part with their savings, usually end up raving on the street and waving placards about the coming day of judgment. But Falwell, improving on the other Chaucerian frauds from Oral Roberts to Jim Bakker to Ted Haggard, not only had a TV show of his own but was also regularly invited onto mainstream ones.
The evil that he did will live after him. This is not just because of the wickedness that he actually preached, but because of the hole that he made in the “wall of separation” that ought to divide religion from politics. In his dingy racist past, Falwell attacked those churchmen who mixed the two worlds of faith and politics and called for civil rights. Then he realized that two could play at this game and learned to play it himself. Then he won the Republican Party over to the idea of religious voters and faith-based fund raising. And now, by example at least, he has inspired emulation in many Democrats and liberals who would like to borrow the formula. His place on the cable shows will be amply filled by Al Sharpton: another person who can get away with anything under the rubric of Reverend. It’s a shame that there is no hell for Falwell to go to, and it’s extraordinary that not even such a scandalous career is enough to shake our dumb addiction to the “faith-based.”[/quote]
