# Farm-sourced raw milk in Taiwan: Does it exist? **URL:** \ **Category:** Food & Drink\ **Created:** [April 28, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823 "2023-04-28T19:09:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zaowangyeh](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/zaowangyeh/32/204884_2.png) [@zaowangyeh](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/zaowangyeh)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/1 "2023-04-28T19:09:34Z")
Is locally-produced milk, whether cow or goat, available in Taiwan? If so, where can it be purchased? ---
**Author:** ![izzy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/c2a13f/32.png) [@izzy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/izzy)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/2 "2023-04-28T21:55:27Z")
try organic stores, but they all sell pasteurized milk. ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/3 "2023-04-29T01:48:42Z")
At the farm. I used to buy goat milk years ago from the farm, not cheap, 100 NT$/liter. They had this big milk cooler where they scooped it out. I made fresh curdled cheese of it. ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/4 "2023-04-29T04:29:24Z")
I wonder where do milks come from in Taiwan? There’s gotta be cow farms where you can get raw milk from them, but by law milk sold has to be pasteurized. When I was living in a small town in Germany I was told that the local cow farmer will sell raw milk for something like 50 euro cents per liter. ---
**Author:** ![Dravanvaru](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dravanvaru/32/272254_2.png) [@Dravanvaru](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dravanvaru)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 7:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/5 "2023-04-29T07:02:20Z")
I tried getting some at Chulu Ranch near Taitung a few years ago, but was told it wasn’t possible. ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 7:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/6 "2023-04-29T07:28:28Z")
Probably liability. I mean they pasteurize milk so it isn’t full of germs. ---
**Author:** ![taiwandude](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@taiwandude](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/taiwandude)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 7:40am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/7 "2023-04-29T07:40:58Z")
Some years ago I went with my friend’s family to this place > **[Flying Cow Ranch in Miaoli](https://www.rtaiwanr.com/miaoli/flying-cow-ranch)** > > Located in the Tongxiao Township of Miaoli, Flying Cow Ranch is the best destination for parents to spend some quality time with their little ones. Covering a vast area, the ranch grazes cattle, h... ---
**Author:** ![zaowangyeh](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/zaowangyeh/32/204884_2.png) [@zaowangyeh](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/zaowangyeh)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/8 "2023-04-29T15:20:07Z")
Here in the States a local producer sells it somewhere between five and six US$ per gallon at the farm. Same product at the store goes for eight to ten-fifty. ---
**Author:** ![zaowangyeh](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/zaowangyeh/32/204884_2.png) [@zaowangyeh](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/zaowangyeh)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/9 "2023-04-29T16:24:42Z")
Cheese making is the reason I asked. Just cut into this one today after three months affinage. ![20230429_113542](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/4/5/453ea5fa941870e55f7450d8567cb7558e01be52.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/10 "2023-04-30T01:15:30Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > When I was living in a small town in Germany I was told that the local cow farmer will sell raw milk for something like 50 euro cents per liter. That’s more than he gets from the dairy companies. and what is pasteurizing? It’s heating up the milk to a specific temperature for a specific time. ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/11 "2023-04-30T01:51:03Z")
Bottom line is if you want unpasteurized milk the only way is from a cow farm. Pasteurization isn’t just to kill germs, but also make it last long enough to make it to a store shelf. So no store is going to sell unpasteurized milk. ---
**Author:** ![Bree](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bree/32/270345_2.png) [@Bree](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Bree)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 4:36am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/12 "2023-04-30T04:36:27Z")
Ask the folks at Dida Creamery. I read they get it Dida乳酪 Dida Creamery(迷你門市)（康拓洋行裡） 02 2254 2375 > **[Dida乳酪 Dida Creamery(迷你門市)（康拓洋行裡） · No. 109-2號, Section 2, Wenhua Rd, Banqiao...](https://maps.app.goo.gl/bmWAur7QquYfEhAi9)** > > ★★★★★ · Cheese shop ---
**Author:** ![ALL\_DAY](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@ALL\_DAY](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ALL_DAY)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/13 "2023-06-13T01:52:56Z")
Looks like a very tall Brie wheel. From the coloration in the photo it doesn’t seem like this one aged long enough for the center to soften up. How did the taste turn out? ---
**Author:** ![zaowangyeh](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/zaowangyeh/32/204884_2.png) [@zaowangyeh](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/zaowangyeh)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/14 "2023-06-13T02:08:41Z")
It was a 1st attempt at Savoie styled tomme. Tastes nice, but not what I was shooting for. I doubled up on the acidifying cultures because they were beyond active date. Also, most likely added too much weight while pressing. There should be a nice amount of black mucor on the surface, but not so much. Try and try again. Regardless, everyone still loved it, or they were blowing smoke up my ass. 😆 This photo should give you some idea of what I was looking for. ![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/a/0/a056884bae22e916648658bf44a4ee01c0e3f0e1.jpeg) I wish you the best of luck in your endeavor in a most excellent place. Thank you for your service, and I am happy that you have found Forumosa. A great resource with helpful and knowledgable travelers and expats, as well as some local Taiwanese who have a lot to contribute. Looking forward to see posts of your progress and experiences. 🍻 ---
**Author:** ![ALL\_DAY](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@ALL\_DAY](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ALL_DAY)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/15 "2023-06-13T02:13:48Z")
Thanks for the kind words. My family (more specifically my dad) were artisan cheesemakers up until mid-2022. Business had to close down due to the lack of replacement recording instruments for the cooking process. Knocked the business out of public sales that it wasn’t able to recover and we don’t have the capital or manpower to start it all over again. Good on ya for the attempt though. Artisan cheese is - by definition - an art and every batch will be slightly different so don’t be too critical of yourself. If it tastes good then it is good. ---
**Author:** ![zaowangyeh](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/zaowangyeh/32/204884_2.png) [@zaowangyeh](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/zaowangyeh)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/16 "2023-06-13T02:22:44Z")
Assuming the business was in the US, the gov places many hurdles and restrictions, so I can understand why your father had to close down OPs. Very sorry to hear that. I could not sell the cheeses I make due to the raw milk aspect and in the TDZ ripening. But a nice red wine made from the same cellar pairing it, good to go! ---
**Author:** ![ALL\_DAY](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@ALL\_DAY](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ALL_DAY)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/17 "2023-06-13T02:25:15Z")
It was in the U.S. and the horror we went through just getting everything off the ground was a big deterrent in trying to restart again. Cabernet or Merlot? Pinot Noir would work if the taste is mellow and rich, but I find that it clashes with the more acidic tasting cheeses. ---
**Author:** ![zaowangyeh](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/zaowangyeh/32/204884_2.png) [@zaowangyeh](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/zaowangyeh)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/18 "2023-06-13T02:37:06Z")
I have a Bordeaux style blend from 2021, which the Merlot seems to be the dominant grape in the finished wine. Seems to pair well, but would like to do a revist on a yearly basis. Unfortunately, the wine may not be around for 5-10 years. I discovered this cheese (tomme de savoie) when I lived in Taiwan eons ago at a gourmet shop, paired it with a good French Burgundy. Perfect match. We’ll get there. Lot’s of patience. ---
**Author:** ![DogmaticStoic](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dogmaticstoic/32/179644_2.png) [@DogmaticStoic](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DogmaticStoic)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:32am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/19 "2023-06-13T06:32:07Z")
Wow prices have really gone up that much? When I was living in Wisconsin just a few years ago, it was 3.50 (actually usually less) a gallon. 5-6ish for the expensive Amish stuff ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823/20 "2023-06-13T06:41:25Z")
Remember this “cat milk” I found at the mia cbon at 101? ![PXL_20230601_080815312](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/5/1/51f1f559eb9f2be629be333379d32b3f0359700a.jpeg) The carton says 100% raw milk. There are others like it, that doesn’t have cats on it. Has anyone tried them? > **[100%純生乳無添加，全台第五家通過動福驗證的牧場，貓咪圖案瓶身超可愛](https://www.tiffany0118.com/cat-milk/)** > > 貓兒干鮮乳來自全台第五家通過動福驗證的崙背民奉牧場，100%純生乳無添加，是台農嚴選的鮮乳推薦。貓兒干鮮乳目前在全台家樂福都有販售，貓咪圖案瓶身很討喜，在市面上鮮乳的價格屬於中等，但品質絕對有把關，從乳源也就是乳牛的生活及畜舍環境都非常用心且重視，也可以拿來變化成不同的料理，是好喝的鮮乳推薦。\[sc name="FB This link has more info about this product. It’s about 95 per carton. [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/farm-sourced-raw-milk-in-taiwan-does-it-exist/229823.md?page=2)