Fines on a stolen scooter?

Anyone know what happens when a scooter that has some fines is stolen?

Does the owner have to pay the fines?

i would think so~

I think my father in law dumped a car in the montains once so he did not have to pay fines.(what kind off famely am I geting involved with :help: )

Probartly 15 years ago or something.

If the fines relate to offenses committed before the vehicle was reported stolen, the owner still has to pay them, or go to court to fight the tickets. If the fines are dated after the date of the police report (the one reporting the theft) you take that police report down to the DMV and they should waive the fines.

[quote=“Stian”]I think my father in law dumped a car in the montains once so he did not have to pay fines.(what kind off famely am I geting involved with :help: )

Probartly 15 years ago or something.[/quote]

sure it was 15 years ago ? :smiley:

i took this photo in july 2003…
…nothing there on the road… except this lonely car

But what situation or circumstance leads you to having to pay them in the first place? You’re not trying to register the bike for a new year, it’s stolen. I have unpaid fines and tickets on a car, and still paid for registration and traffic tickets on a motorcycle I have without having to clear up both at the same time, both on my ARC.

But what situation or circumstance leads you to having to pay them in the first place?[/quote]

Presumably parking tickets, speeding tickets or other driving-related offenses.

Sale of the vehicle shouldn’t make any difference. The offenses were already committed. The penalties are to teach you a lesson (or raise revenue) so you won’t commit similar offenses in the future.

If you shoot someone, but someone then steals your gun, can they still press charges against you? Why should this be any different?

But what situation or circumstance leads you to having to pay them in the first place?[/quote]

Presumably parking tickets, speeding tickets or other driving-related offenses.

Sale of the vehicle shouldn’t make any difference. The offenses were already committed. The penalties are to teach you a lesson (or raise revenue) so you won’t commit similar offenses in the future.

If you shoot someone, but someone then steals your gun, can they still press charges against you? Why should this be any different?[/quote]

I guess I wasn’t clear enough about my question.

Example: I have an old scooter I use for short zips here and there. The registration hasn’t been paid for many years, and there are no doubt numerous tickets for various offenses racked up on it. But there is no situation I’m faced with at present that forces me to clear that stuff up, unless I was going to sell it or get the registration paid up to the current date. I suppose if it was towed from parking illegally, I could be required to pay for all the old tickets, fees, fines, etc. to get it back, but as it is a junker, I would just let it go.

So, again, if you have reported a scooter stolen, you are not paying for new registration, how would a guy be forced to pay old fees, tickets, etc? Or is that part of the process in declaring a vehicle stolen and completing paperwork with the MVD and police?

[quote=“kcs”][quote=“Stian”]I think my father in law dumped a car in the montains once so he did not have to pay fines.(what kind off famely am I geting involved with :help: )

Probartly 15 years ago or something.[/quote]

sure it was 15 years ago ? :smiley:

i took this photo in july 2003…
…nothing there on the road… except this lonely car

[/quote]

WTF how did that hapend?

I have no idea actually, but I got the storry from my SO togther with other horror stories from the childhod. Like the one they had to wipe there butt with some special paper in the morning witch they anded over to the teatcher so the school nurce could find out if they where infected by some worm that lived in there stomac. Aparently this worm came out the a-hole at night to lie eggs.

I’m considering telling her to stop shearing things with me.

What’s going to happen is that the moment you go for extension of your driver license they’ll send you to the unpaid fines desk and you have to pay them before you get your license extended, in case the vehicle is registered in your name … or when you register a new vehicle they want you to pay your fines before you get a new vehicle registration … if you don’t renew your license and registration, the moment the police checks you it’s paying big time, 6,000 NT$ for the drivers license and 10,000 NT$ for the not paying vehicle registration … and probably impounding of the vehicle … :smiley:

But when you declared it stolen at the police office I have no idea what happens afterwards …

Not to mention that those with large outstanding fines can be barred from leaving the country until they are paid. A few aquaintances have been stopped at immigrations and refused an exit stamp until they coughed up.

No. You don’t have to pay off your fines just to report the bike stolen or get it back if the police recover it. I haven’t updated the rego or paid any fines on my 5-year-old scooter, but the police got it back for me when I reported it stolen.

You may or may not have to pay fines when you renew your licence. There’s two types of fines. Most are tied to your vehicle registration (xinzhao - the blue and white card). These are the photos of your licence plate etc. You’ll have to pay this before updating registration and insurance or transferring ownership, but not updating your licence. On the other hand, if a copper pulls you over and issues you a ticket, that’s tied to your driving licence (jia zhao (or zha zhao?)). I imagine you’ll have to pay these before updating your licence.

Brian

[quote=“Bu Lai En”]There’s two types of fines. Most are tied to your vehicle registration (xinzhao - the blue and white card). These are the photos of your licence plate etc. You’ll have to pay this before updating registration and insurance or transferring ownership, but not updating your licence. On the other hand, if a copper pulls you over and issues you a ticket, that’s tied to your driving licence (jia zhao (or zha zhao?)). I imagine you’ll have to pay these before updating your licence.[/quote]I’ve had to pay parking fines when updating vehicle registration. They weren’t on-the-spot fines, though.

Yeah, parking fines are tied to your registration.

Basically if they photo’d or wrote down your licence plate number, then it’s tied to your vehicle registration.

If the copper pulls you over and writes you a ticket, it’s tied to your driver’s licence.

The two are not connected to each other. If you change address, and want to keep receiving your fines, you need to change the address on both the registration and your licence. (I found that out the hard way recently).

Brian