First time going to renew my visitor visa

Hi everyone,
I need to renew my visitor visa soon. Can anyone tell me what to expect, what to say… not to say.
I assume its the same situation with when I applied for my visitor visa to not mention certain things.

This time… I think we will ask me why am I extending… and I wish to say that I didnt get a chance to see the south of Taiwan because of the recent typhoons I was not sure how safe it would be to travel there and avoid typhoon damaged areas from areas that are ok. Something I am just not aware of.

I have another issue that warrants opinions:

my flight ticket… back to the USA… is set for the first week of november.
Are they going to ask to see my arranged flight ticket home/ out of the country?

if they see this date ( my original plane ticket home)… I dont think they are going to give my a renewal.
I hope I dont have to change the date AGAIN… because i just paid $500 to give me another 30 days here previously (was scared about not finding work, etc. but things are getting better now.)

Thanks in advance,
if you need me to clarify anything just ask.

GTTDPN Notes - (get to the damn point notes):

  • a noob is renewing visa for another 60 days - first time.
  • any pro tips?
  • what about my current plane ticket ending roughly the same time I am asking for a renewal.
  • issues to worry about?

You don’t mention it here but I suspect you think you can extend your visa without flying out of Taiwan? As far as I know that is impossible. I live in Taiwan now for 5 years and keep flying in and out. Quick flights the same day up and down to HK or in case I need a new visitor visa (Multiple entry 6 months valid 30 or 60 days stay) than I fly to BKK, now for the shocking price of 10.800 NT, 4.500 just 5 years ago. :fume:
If they were only so smart as to say: OK, for half the ticket price you can do it in Taipei and we both earn money, now I pump all my flight money into the DUTCH economy, Taiwan doesn’t get a cent of it, a bit stupid if you ask me. Pure destruction of money while they could earn from me.

During all those flights in and out in the beginning I was also a bit nervous about “what will they think? That I work here illegal?”. Trust me, they don’t care less, never asked a thing and I never opened a suitcase once ever. Only one time a Customs Officer asked me in Chinese if I studied Chinese in Taiwan. Just follow their rules and you will be fine, but you must leave the country and after arriving in HK you take the same plane back leaving 1 hour later and upon landing they will give you a free 30 day Landing Visa.

Some airline companies won’t allow you to board the plane going to Taipei if you can’t show a ticket flying out. I had that with Dragon Air and Cathay when I wanted to switch in HK and fly back again. An expensive lesson because I never had that question ever before, it is purely policy of the airlines and also depends on where you board. I had to buy a full priced ticket at the counter at the airport. For single flight I paid more than I had paid for my return flight. Once in Taiwan I tried to give back that ticket but I still lost 25%. Another thing; if you have 1 overstay stamp in your passport (I had one because once my flight was canceled because of a Typhon) than you are in deep shit unless you can show a Customs paper with the reason for overstay. They will not let you board unless you can show that paper or they make you sign a paper that says you understand the risk of being denied in Taiwan. That overstay stamp has haunted me for as long as I had that passport. If you have plans to work in Taiwan you better don’t start with overstaying. Bad start and bad idea. Always once I have a visitor visa sticker in my pass than all I do is fill in that visitors form they give in the plane which they will stamp and staple in my passport.

In Bangkok they never ever ask me why I want to go back. They don’t care less as long as I have all papers and copies ready; pass photo’s, proof of filled bank account and proof I am married which recently they now want translated in English :aiyo: . They are also not a very friendly bunch, although by far that is the most flexible place to obtain a Visa for Taiwan, compared to other countries in Asia. In case you wonder: yes it is true, one country will say yes, another say no. They are all Taiwan Representative Offices but all have different rules. Bangkok is most flexible and the only one that will issue me 60 days Multiple Entry, all others just 30 days.

Why make up some story? Simple tell them why; because the women are hot, or there is lots to see, or you just love stinking awful tofu. Whatever, they don’t care. The visa people never ask to see any ticket but there is an easy trick to get out of being denied access back to Taiwan when you wish to board the plane that you already have a ticket for. Go to a travel and make a reservation for a ticket within your visa data flying out of TW, ask them to print that and simply never buy that ticket. You can show that print as your ticket, they always accept. Do remember that once you have an overstay stamp in your pass, you are always in for trouble getting back in, even if it wasn’t your fault.

ps to get a 60 day visa normally is only possible when applied for at your home country, in your case the USA, not possible in BKK or HK, they will sell you a 30 day visa, but silly to do, those are for free at arrival, the landing visa.

In your case I see no other option than to shop for a ticket up and down to HK, and beg there for a 60 day renewal, which I think is unlikely they will give. Fly back to Taiwan and get the free 30 days upon arrival and change your USA ticket fitting to that . 500 NT is a bargain anyway, I once paid KLM Taipei 5000 NT to change the date to leave a week earlier, while that same ticket, with non changeable dates, can be changed for 50 Bhat administration fee in Bangkok. A miracle!

This is what I keep doing but well, maybe I am blind and not aware there are other possibilities.
Wish you good luck

Im sorry but maybe I was not clear.

I already have a multiple entry visitor visa. It says on it 3 times.
So this would be very close to the first 60 days of my time in Taipei. I am currently in Taipei.

so I was under the impression that I need to get my visitor visa renewed here at immigration. To continue my stay for the next 60 days… then again… in another 60 days… after that…180 days… if I am not married by then (lol!)… then I would have to start doing visa runs to HK or anywhere else.

so once again, in brief I will ask:

an American, is renewing his visitor visa for another 60 days - first time.

  • any pro tips?
  • what about my current plane ticket ending roughly the same time I am asking for a renewal.
  • issues to worry about?

If you already have that Visa than next you look until when it is valid to enter? Before they always gave me 6 months, entering as often I please, hence the name Multiple. Recently they gave me one that is valid for 1 year so that saves me flights to the TW Representative Office and I only need to fly out to HK and back to Taipei. As long as you make sure you enter TW before the Visa expires, you are safe. The 60 days allowed in Taiwan start counting from the next day you enter. But do check from when till when your Visa is valid and also count the days on a calender. I always book 3 days before, just to make sure in case I miscalculate somehow. Overstay and they can stop you from entering for a certain time, apart from the dine they give you.

Here you can’t do anything at Immigration but feel free to ask as if you thought you could, neither in Taipei nor at the airport.
Correct, every time you go out and come back in it is 60 days if that is the number on your visa, until that Multiple Entry Visa itself expires.
Doubtful if anybody can beat me in visa runs lol, At first I never could get a 60 days even, just 30 days so I did one every month. They have loosened up a little and finally I too got 60 days which was about time…
About your ticket: if you wish to work here or make sure to be able to come back; don’t overstay. Less trouble and cheaper to change your flight if it is just 500NT (and hope they have seats when you need them).

OP, did you figure it out yet? I am also here on a Visitor’s Visa. I will be leaving to visit China in mid-Dec (thus, getting an automatic 60 day) but I was wondering what would happen when I come back since I am planning on staying for at least 6 months? I don’t want to do a Visa Run if I can’t renew my visitor’s visa. However, if it’s cheaper just to do a run and NOT file to renew, I would enjoy a weekend vacation…

Are you simply touring here, or are you studying?

I’m a student here, currently on a visitor visa.

Every time I need to renew my visitor visa, the immigration authorities ask for 2 bits of paper, my enrolment certificiate and another piece of paper with all my marks and class attendance. They never ask me very much, they just smile and stamp my passport. Sometimes my Taiwanese girlfriend comes along with me and she chats to the immigration officers in Chinese while I sit there like a stunned mullet.

Frans has got it all right ! Play by the rules and keep your nose clean and you are gold !

Lets rehash a bit ( i did visa runs for fifteen years ). Either you:

  1. enter with the visa exempt (its not a landing visa , its a visa exempt entry. Landing visa costs money and is only for people with passports of less then six months left or holding a temporary passport) and stay NO MORE then the allowed number of days.

  2. get a visa PRIOR to arrival in Taiwan at one of Taiwan’s offices . These cost money and are either SINGLE ENTRY or most likely MULTIPLE ENTRY. And they will have a validity date. Single entry visa entitles you to one single entry then the visa is useless. These are the old fashioned visa no longer in vogue. Most likely they will give you a 30 day Multiple Entry visa. Which nowadays is not much different then simply arriving at the airport and getting your 30 days just upon arrival. The valuable one is the sixty day Multiple Entry Visa. Which means you can enter and stay for a maximum of sixty days each time, and you can do so until the visa expires.

For example I used to get Multiple Entry Sixty day visa that were good for five years. That means for five years I can enter Taiwan and stay a max of sixty days each time . Leave and come back in for another sixty days without need to visit a visa office.

Used to be almost anyone needed a visa to Taiwan. And one would get either a single entry visa valid for a certain number of days, or a multiple entry visa valid for a certain number of days. Nowadays visa exempt is becoming the norm in many countries.

Soon many Europeans will be able to enter Taiwan for up to 90 days each time without a prior visa. Canadians will soon be able to as well. UK citizens and Japanese citizens already get 90 day visa exempt entry into Taiwan simply by showing up at the airport.

Yes supposedly you are supposed to have a ticket out of TAiwan but strangely its not Taiwan immigration who is likely to check this but instead the airlines may do so.

Hope this helps? You shouldnt worry about coming back to Taiwan as long as you do not have an overstay stamp (which disqualifies you from visa exempt entry for a year or longer). Taiwan immigration are generally pretty nice and lenient as long as you play by the rules.
p.s. Frans may have beat me, but i did about 100 visa runs to hongkong :slight_smile:
But i never went there and back the same day. I prefer to stay a few days in HK or Macau ! Make a mini holiday out of it. Just make back your ticket by BUYING a ton of stuff in HK (hopefuly all stuff you need anyway) . The more you spend the more you SAVE !! :smiley:

[quote=“bumclouds”]Are you simply touring here, or are you studying?

I’m a student here, currently on a visitor visa.

Every time I need to renew my visitor visa, the immigration authorities ask for 2 bits of paper, my enrolment certificiate and another piece of paper with all my marks and class attendance. They never ask me very much, they just smile and stamp my passport. Sometimes my Taiwanese girlfriend comes along with me and she chats to the immigration officers in Chinese while I sit there like a stunned mullet.[/quote]

sOME people can get extensions pretty easily, others NOT. TAiwanese girlfriends often come in very handy for such purposes !! :laughing:

Why complain. If you wanted to not spend money of lights you would get a resident visa. 5 years visiting eh lol

I’m confused. Why don’t some think he can get his extensions? Go to immigration and apply for one. Just stick to touring. Do not mention anything about work or school. Stating cancelled plans to head South is a good starting point.

If you are a genuine student and have the required number of hours and have proof of the such, it should be an easy matter to extend. I dont know how many times you can extend, but in the past it was 2 times for a total stay of 180 days (60 x 3) then make a quick trip out of the rock and back to start it over again.

However, if you are in Taiwan on your own means , making income elsewhere but not in Taiwan and you are trying to extend beyond your first six months on the rock they may ask you to go to the tax bureau and get a statement that you are tax exempt. And the tax bureau suffers no fools and will grill you and/or charge you an arbitrary tax that they think up on the spot !@

Hence the need to do visa runs.

The 30 day visa is now essentially useless , unless you have an overstay stamp in your passport, which requires you to have a visa prior to landing on Taiwan. Otherwise, essentially everyone has the multiple 30 day visa now (if your passport is from the list of countries enjoying this priviledge).

The 60 day visa is still useful because its sixty days instead of 30 and has the possibility of an extension if you have the required papers.

But that may go the way of the dodo bird as well as Taiwan gears up to go 90 days visa exempt.

Its all good tho, the direction its heading.

[quote]The 30 day visa is now essentially useless , unless you have an overstay stamp in your passport, which requires you to have a visa prior to landing on Taiwan. Otherwise, essentially everyone has the multiple 30 day visa now (if your passport is from the list of countries enjoying this priviledge).

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It might be that I’m reading this wrong, since it’s 1:20 AM right now and I have a long flight in a few hours, but…

He doesn’t have a 30 day Visa. He has a 60 day visa. Have things changed in the past few months that he cannot get a Visa extension easily from Immigration without leaving the country?

What changed and when did it happen? I’ve NEVER heard of a problem with this as long as you don’t say anything about classes or work.

read all of my above. I wasnt specifically talking about the OP and his 60 day. I was talking about people getting a 30 day multiple. Regarding the extension, again not specifically talking about the OP. I think a person will not have much trouble extending the first 2 times. After that the issue of tax will come up when a person stays in taiwan over 180 days in the year.

Hey

I have a quick question. I have a multiple entry visa. the date on it expired on December 4 I entered Taiwan on Novemeber 30. The visa states on it enter before December 4th. I am just wondering if I entered before december 4th do I still get the 60 days ? or is the entry before date the end of the visa too ? Thanks

You get the sixty days when you entered because your visa had not yet expired. But when you do leave you will need to re-apply for another one or come back in on a visa free, requirements apply.

I am Chinese by ethnicity and American but I’ve been told it’s not too difficult to get a renewal.

@ Puppet - I’ve read a lot that you shouldn’t mention work or school but what about my case…
My plans changed and I ended up doing nothing the first two months while papers for my internship were being processed. The internship leaders told me that I’m responsible for the VISA renewal and that it would be easy. Should I just tell them that when I go and apply or should I stick to touring?

[quote=“tiggerr”]I am Chinese by ethnicity and American but I’ve been told it’s not too difficult to get a renewal.

@ Puppet - I’ve read a lot that you shouldn’t mention work or school but what about my case…
My plans changed and I ended up doing nothing the first two months while papers for my internship were being processed. The internship leaders told me that I’m responsible for the VISA renewal and that it would be easy. Should I just tell them that when I go and apply or should I stick to touring? Also, when should I go to the immigration and file? Does it take time for it to process? The website was very confusing! Thanks![/quote]
If by “internship” you mean “volunteering to help feed sick orphans,” maybe you could mention it and not get in trouble. Otherwise, to the people in the immigration office, whatever you’re really doing is likely to sound a lot like “working illegally.” And that’s something you don’t want to report.

I don’t make any money so I don’t really have anything to hide…

But yea, I will def. talk to the people in charge and see what I should do. Thanks a lot! :slight_smile:

Well, yes, that’s the way it would be in a system that made sense. But the authorities here have made it clear that even unpaid volunteer activities can be considered work and that if your visa does not authorize you to work you could be deported. That’s not to say that would necessarily happen to you. But I don’t advise taking the risk of announcing something that could get you kicked out of the country.

Good luck.

Hello,

Can anyone tell me. It your visa expires June 11 . It says enter before june 11. And you come to Taipei june 5 th and they stamp your passport. Does that mean you have 60 days or do you still have to leave June 11. For a multiply entry visa valid for 6 months.

Thanks