Foreigners using 104.com.tw, job successes, any interviews?

104.com.tw worthwhile site for foreigners?

  • Yes, just as good as monster.com if not better
  • No, foreigners’ resumes get sent directly to the Recycling Bin

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Anyone here had experience using 104.com.tw for finding a job? The posting by guest in the thread"Leaving Taiwan, and my love." got me thinkin…

I tried searching for previous posts on this subject but it came up empty. Surprising considering that site seems to be the biggest job site in TW, and seems the only place to find a large selection of jobs not dealing with english teaching. Not to digress, but the search button appears broken on forumosa, no matter what i type in da itty bitty box, it seemz to just refresh da current page.

Anyways, who’s used the site to find a job? to get an interview? Actually get a job through it? 104 seems mostly geared towards fluent Chinese readers, which would discourage most non-Chinese speakers, but with babbelfish and some guessing its manageable for a foreigner.

How have the attitudes of hiring managers been when they receive an english resume? Do ppl get friends to translate their resume into Chinese as well to aid the hiring manager or would that be misleading if U are totallly illiterate in Chinese, and/or speaking Mandarin?

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I had my GF do the hunting for me on that site and actually got a couple replies…but only for teaching English. I was in a bad spot and needed a job quick, so she was only looking for English teaching jobs. That said, I would guess if she looked for other non-teaching jobs, then there could have been a chance. I remember seeing the ads looking for English teachers, they were completely in Chinese. So, my guess is that some employers only post in Chinese, but would consider foreigners. So have someone look for you. May pay off.

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My wife translated my stuff into Chinese for 104, but mentioned I cannot speak Chinese. I got several job offers in the IT sector, but I could not take a lot of interviews for their short schedule (was still back home then). Coming here I had 3 or 4 interviews from that.
Some ending at the point when they discovered I cannot fill in any QA report in Chinese chracters.
My present company, interested in the EU market, hired me and it is a pleasant experience.

Some bosses do not mind foreigners not speaking Mandarin, but maybe later they will discover communication with the “English speaking” Taiwanese is more difficult than expected. I found my colleagues often being able to talk to Korean and Japanese in English, but not to me. Shyness … and it seems they developed a totally different pronounciation and even words among “themselves”.
Like “piolun” did not really sound like “pilot run” for me the first week :smiley:
Or nobody understands “chip” ! (They only say chipset).

Later I learned to speak in simple sentences to make it easier … different pronounciaton of myself and them.

um…I recently gave the site a shot, but haven’t had much success, but I didn’t translate my resume into Chinese… I will try that, thanx for da suggestion and info.

When U posted your resume in Chinese did you include a biography? Chinese resumes seem to include a family history and odd personal info thats not normally found on english ones…

I did get about half a dozen interviews through 104.com. My biography was in English, whoever I work for will need to have some English skills anyway. If Chinese isn’t a problem with you, post it in Chinese.
It does take a long time to fill in everything and it’s confusing, even for the Chinese speaker who filled it in for me, I seem to remember format of the ID card was a slight problem.
I think it’s better for non-teaching jobs, it’s not really intended for foreigners. I think bosses wanting to employ English speakers would go to other places, like here or tealit.
I would say if you’re looking for an IT or other specialised job, go for it !

I seem to remember there being another thread on this, but I can’t find it either :ponder:

… don’t they have a CV-upload facility or resume template download in English? I seem to remember something like that. Although, having said that, I have never used it myself as I wanted to have some info from them regarding confidentiality prior to uploading/sending my CV, an inquiry they never answered.

I would agree with BFM: if you can’t speak, read or write Chinese, no sense in submitting a Chinese CV as your potential employers will need to be able to communicate with you in English and, of course, your job content would have to be in English (or of course French, Italian, German, Japanese or whatever …) in any case. Plus, you avoid confusion of the kind our (otherwise) honest Bob experienced. Good luck! Xpet.

[quote=“webdoctors”]um…I recently gave the site a shot, but haven’t had much success, but I didn’t translate my resume into Chinese… I will try that, thanx for da suggestion and info.

When U posted your resume in Chinese did you include a biography? Chinese resumes seem to include a family history and odd personal info thats not normally found on English ones…[/quote]

Yes, I posted my CV. Not in the looong German style with photo and starting page, but in what-I-think-is US style: table with projects and companies. My wife included a “private field” about hobbies and looking forward to work in TWN, married to a TWN wife.
She said mentioning my no-need-for-work-permit would help too. I forgot that by myself. But I am married, so no need for brain.

… and ability field.

I mentioned “I do not speak Chinese”, but having the text in Mandarin caused confusion sometimes, that is true :smiley:

The idea was, a recruiting guy of a company may have limited English skills and prefer to read Chinese, even if for the job Mandarin would not be mandatory.

I think it would be safe to assume that the majority of foriegners who would use that website would have somebody translating and typing for them. If that is, indeed, the case, then I think it’s way better to just drive/walk/etc. around town, write down the phone number to every nearby English school, and then have that person who translates for you call everyone and ask if they need a foriegn teacher. That’s what I did, and I got at least 7 or 8 interviews/demos in a week…and subsequently got 2 different part-time jobs. The catch is, I don’t have any experience, or a college degree. So, imagine how much better that hunting would go if you had any qualifications.

Sheesh, you don’t need to go to all that trouble just to get a job teaching English in Taiwan…all you gotta do is look at a bulletin board, or knock on doors. I think that site’s usefulness would be more for jobs other than the English teaching jobs 90% of the foreigners in Taiwan already have.

I never put in my resume there, but used their search function to nail down what I was looking for.

Got a job there, and also a few interviews.

Useful, but your Chinese needs to be at least passable.