General anesthesia safety in Taiwan

Don’t worry, my friend. The risk of dying from anesthesia is lower than that of getting scammed by a passport bro.

I had general anesthesia in Taiwán and for now lm alive

I’m hearing on the news about deaths from general anesthesia, often done at cosmetic surgery clinics, where they administer profonol. What’s the story, and how are they able to administer general anesthesia? Do they have an anesthesiologist?

It seems the deaths are often the person cannot breathe on their own or something, as these drugs basically shuts everything down, even breathing and you must be artificially ventilated the whole time. Although they don’t really say what the drug used is, they have this thing called “milk injection” which seems to refer to profonol as it has a milky appearance.

Some articles went on to say that most cosmetic surgery clinics are not licensed, and that there are only 40 licensed clinics in Taiwan.

How widespread is this practice and how safe is general anesthesia in Taiwan? If I had to go under for whatever reason how much assurance do I have that I’ll wake up at all?

https://www.commonhealth.com.tw/article/87718

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You already have a thread about this:

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i’m not in taiwan but i do know that korea has a similar problem with unlicensed nurses or anesthesiologists in cheap plastic surgery clinics. this is unfortunately common in plastic surgery clinics around the world, especially in mexico and other cheap places.

your best bet is always to go for the licensed places. there’s a list of them in every country, even zimbabwe.

the reason why people die is because they go with the cheapest option.

that penis enlargement surgery isnt even someone that many surgeons approve of. rule of thumb is that if you have to go to hundreds of clinics to get approved for your niche plastic surgery, it’s not one that your should do.

you can get your nose done easily because it’s a well researched procedure, but i wouldn’t trust a plastic surgeon that would mess with your appendage if you don’t need it.

I’m sorry, I forgot about this.

Feel free to merge it if you think it’s appropriate. It’s just that I see it from time to time on the news and it seems weird the government isn’t doing more to regulate this.

I mean they should be cracking down on clinics doing this, and harshly restrict supplies of general anesthesia drugs to only licensed clinics or anesthesiologists. Why the hell would they even do this without necessary equipment or anesthesiologists?

Unless it’s a facelift most cosmetic procedures could be done using local anesthesia and those are not risky, doesn’t require anesthesiologist or ventilation equipment. I get the sense the deaths were caused by the doctors thinking they could low dose the GA drugs so that artificial ventilation isn’t necessary but this is exceptionally risky.

Yeah, I don’t think it’s wise to be receiving general anesthesia from people who aren’t qualified. That’s why I go to properly licensed clinics for all of my cosmetic surgery work.

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How’s that BBL holding up?

It’s great, thanks for asking! Wherever I sit, I feel like I’m on a sofa!

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Well, how are unlicensed clinic even obtaining the drugs? They’re controlled stuff.

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It was a licensed clinic run by a real doctor:

He just might not have had the correct training:

Doctors who are not specifically trained in cosmetic surgery are allowed to practice in Taiwan, as regulators have not established certification standards for the field, Taiwan Society for Dermatological and Aesthetic Surgery chairman Tsai Ren-yu (蔡仁雨) said.

Yea, that’s a huge problem.

General anesthesia is them essentially taking you to within the edge of death, where you are being ventilated mechanically the whole time. Ventilation is supposed to continue even after the anesthesia wears off which only takes a few minutes. It’s why there’s an anesthesiologist at all. Surgeons aren’t supposed to worry about those details.

Local can cover what most cosmetic surgery involve.

I think you can just ask the cosmetic surgeon about this option the next time you’re getting some work done. As you’ve pointed out, obviously it would be wise to check that they have an anesthesiologist present if you do decide to go with general anesthesia. Too risky otherwise, IMO.

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Sure, I’ll be sure to do that if I have enough money to afford that kind of cosmetic surgery. Though honestly I’d not be inclined to do it just because I rather not have someone cut into me unless it was medically necessary.

Only one I had (which my mom had me do when I was little) was that one where you add an extra fold on your eyelid so you look more “professional”. It’s common here. They are done with local because it’s nothing major.

Apparently Luthiers is not the only one who has spotted a wee bit of a problem here.

Guy