Gentrification Kaohsiung/Taichung vs EU (Dublin, Berlin, Manchester, etc.)

[Liam_Og]

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[PeiHua-Connie]

@loser

The highest per capita number of Mercedes is in Dublin. The Lord Mayor is Chinese. The Minister of Trade is Indian. Ireland is 4th in the world in per capita GDP. The average Irish earn more than the average Brit. But I’m sure there are many Irish who cannot afford to live in the Dublin. Before, Irish left Ireland because Ireland is too poor. Now, Irish leave Ireland because it’s too rich

These facts are surprise, but I knew about the Lord Mayor

[Brianjones]

@loser

The

No they are Irish not Chinese or Indian .

[PeiHua-Connie]

@Brianjones

@loser

The

No they are Irish not Chinese or Indian .

Yes she is (Lord Mayor as Irish) and happy to hear you say this ! (not everyone there thinks this as she gets some comments about her ethnic background). Hope she sees the gentrification issue of high rents and can keep the city rent reasonable.

[OrangeOrganics]

Is Taipei a big ultra modern metro? Maybe a bit of Xinyi is

[DrewC]

While I agree, gentrification does bring new buildings with updated and safer infrastructure. But it’d be nice to have the updated infrastructure without sacrificing the local culture. Unfortunately, generations of families sometimes get priced out when areas are redeveloped.

[amorph]

Yes, please gentrify the fuck out of it, Lord knows Taiwanese cities need it. This isn’t Europe where there’s architecture of value to preserve.

[McNulty]

Are these neighborhoods gentrifying with an influx of middle class or wealthy people, with the whole nine including displaced tenants, etc… or is it just a matter of needing renovation of ugly buildings and a face lift to the area?

[PeiHua-Connie]

@McNulty

Are these neighborhoods gentrifying with an influx of middle class or wealthy people, with the whole nine including displaced tenants, etc… or is it just a matter of needing renovation of ugly buildings and a face lift to the area?

Yes higher prices makes it harder for young people, see:

@Brianjones

Since you mentioned Dublin and I’m very familiar with a few of those areas.
The biggest problem for ‘Dubs’ is that rising property prices and massively increased population have pushed out the younger generation further out of the city if they want to buy a home. There are huge development companies that buy every apartment in a block directly from developers and then only rent them out at very high prices.

But I have to say a lot of the areas mentioned were terribly run down. For instance Phibsoboro and Constitution Hill and others like Mountjoy Square and Dorset St desperately need to be revitalised and renewed. Hipster cafes sound pretty good compared to betting shops and head shops and drug dealers . If one knows the history of those places they would know that they used to the swanky neighbourhoods back in the 18th and 19th centuries.

Also the docklands were notorious for looking like they had been bombed out and they had awful public housing projects. Rough. Pubs that would open at 6am. Many locals have been compensated well by the government there, usually having received free public housing or alternative better housing when redeveloped.

It is sad that very few of the kids in the neighborhood I geew up could really buy there now but its just accepted that is the way it is. It’s actually very difficult to redevelop parts of Dublin due to the very strict planning laws, so you have weird situations of housing estates very close to the city center there.

This is what the center of Phibsborough actually looks like, a 1960s monstrosity . They haven’t been able to knock it down yet.

Also some could say Paris is only as beautiful as it is today because it was basically knocked down and rebuilt in a massive gentrification starting in the 1850s.

Haussmann's renovation of Paris - Wikipedia

[PeiHua-Connie]

@Brianjones

Pubs that would open at 6am. Many locals have been compensated well by the government there, usually having received free public housing or alternative better housing when redeveloped.

This is what the center of Phibsborough actually looks like, a 1960s monstrosity . They haven’t been able to knock it down yet.

I will be back there next month, with jet lag I will see if Pubs are open at 6.

Also see how much inflation has changed prices.

[loser]

My favorite aunt is my aunt Lilly. She died without issue. When her Dublin home sold for about 1 million, her nieces and nephews got a nice gift.

[PeiHua-Connie]

@loser

My favorite aunt is my aunt Lilly. She died without issue. When her Dublin home sold for about 1 million, her nieces and nephews got a nice gift.

Dublin has become very expensive but also a high income place.

[izzy]

i know a few people with grandmothers in Xinyi that became millionaires

[PeiHua-Connie]

Docklands, all clean and expensive now. Lots of offices and high end flats. Kao “Docklands” starting to look the same as Dublin, I hope high prices also do not follow.

[Brianjones]

You don’t want Dublin prices in Kaohsiung thats for sure.

[Quesito]

@OrangeOrganics

Is Taipei a big ultra modern metro? Maybe a bit of Xinyi is

The ghost Xinyi for sure? the real Xinyi where people live still crap. I live in old Xinyi

[Deca]

Taiwan has 80 % craptastic areas that scream for gentrification and rehabilitation, 10% that already has been, and 10% older buildings worthy of preservation.

[OrangeOrganics]

I just walked to where the new social housing is in Xinyi (close to where the new mrt is being built) and its awesome. Really wish more of Taipei and Taiwan can be like that. Really really tall high-rise, functional apartments, with shops on the first floor and ample parks and public space outside.

If you knocked down most of the shit and built like that, then there would be much more housing available and Taiwan would be more livable.

Some people might complain about loss of character, but come on, those old 5 floor buildings are fucking shit.

[user86]

Funny, these look like the mix-use apartment/commercial towers that are all over Hong Kong. Ironically, people there have been trying to do the opposite: Preserve the old five-story walk-up buildings and stop development of these high-rises.

[Whatevah]

Absolutely. Those look great. There will be more of these as time goes on. Taiwan became a real first world country circa 2000s. Can’t rebuild the whole nation in a single decade.

Couldn’t care less about the old ass shite concrete boxes. Everything gets “character” with age, these high rises will get that too.