backward country rules by thievs
assumint it working. power plant owners get paid for capacity there not actual generation. nobody checks…
backward country rules by thievs
assumint it working. power plant owners get paid for capacity there not actual generation. nobody checks…
I am all for utilizing a healthy energy mix. After all, flexibility helps you to harden your energy grid against crisis like the one we are experiencing right now.
But these environmental fruitcakes outright refuse to acknowledge physical reality. Its that damn Hollywood culture that gave us Helen of Detroit and transgender Achilles.
People who-have-no-clue about basic physics believe Star Trek is real, just because they saw some Yt video about a dude “beaming something” from A to B. Trying to explain to these folks that transporting information about the spin state of a single sub-atomic particle is nowhere near transporting a living human being across the galaxy is a complete waste of time.
The same unicorns then tell us their fairy tales about supposedly unlimited energy from wind, solar or geothermal. And no number of physics lessons can convince these day dreamers that the harnessable amount of energy contained in e.g. a wind current is very much limited.
The same goes for geothermal energy. Any such field is being heated by hot currents from the upper regions of the earth mantle. Which in turn are being fueled by huge lava plumes - that-never-reach-the surface. For if they would, the whole field be melting into a lava lake.
You extract more energy from those fluids than is being provided to them from down below, you end up effectively cooling the field down to a temperature where the circulating current will just collapse.
All natural sources of energy have the same problem: They are not artificially scalable.
Its because they are part of mother nature. And nature doesn’t like to be controlled. You want control, you need technology. And you need to be the one providing the source of energy.
Its either that or back to the stone age. I don’t want to have a root canal in the Neanderthal.
The earth has been cooling down since it was first formed. It will eventually cool down and solidify to a point where it loses its magnetic field, and making it impossible for people to live. That’s on the timescale of 2 to 3 billion years, and nothing we can do will speed that up because it is powered by the pressure and nuclear reactions induced by the immense pressure. If we somehow could prolong the earth from losing its magnetic field, in about 5 billion years the sun will turn into a red giant, and it would be impossible for people to live anyway.
We humans haven’t existed for even a billion years yet, we’ve only been here for 2.5 million years at most. So instead of worrying about the earth running out of wind or sun light or geothermal energy in another billion years, why don’t we concentrate on the fact that we are running out of time to reverse the effect of climate change, and that uranium is also a very limited resource that is destructive for the environment to mine, purify, use, and store even when it became waste.
I don’t interpret that he’s saying that extracting geothermal energy is likely to cause a volcanic eruption, rather that that beyond the usual capacity is the result of volcanic activity
Why don’t you spend more time studying actual physics? There is no “running out of time” because there are no mythical “tipping points”. The earth’s climate has been changing since the planet formed and all your panic mongering won’t alter that.
What it will also not change is the very limited amount of energy “alternative” means can produce. And they do those at ever increasing economical and environmental costs.
Yes, environmental costs. Because the blades of wind turbines are not recyclable and the turbines themselves eat up humongous amounts of rare earth minerals. Same goes for solar panels, high-capacity batteries and so on and so on.
Your climate cult is not about the climate at all. If it would be you’d listen to the engineer instead of the ideological unicorns. Its a manifestation of your refusal to grow up. To take responsibility for the consequences of your actions, as any responsible adult has to.
So you made up this fantasy world in which wind , solar and geothermal supposedly produce limitless amounts of energy at next to no cost. Since the cost of alternative energy is still rising - if not exploding - evil capitalism must be to blame.
So we are to get rid of that one, too.
Next stop: We have to force people to accept living in a de-industrialized agrarian society. A society that can no longer house or feed a high density population. So we got to “downsize” that one as well. Its called “the great reset”.
But I just call it bullocks. You got no understanding of technology and thus no clue what you’re talking about here.
I am the engineer and you are not. And as far as I am concerned this concludes our “discussion”.
What I claim is that the amount of energy you can extract from a geothermal field is absolute finite. If you claim otherwise, then prove it!
What I am saying is that the amount of energy being transported to the surface is finite. Because if it wouldn’t be that surface be melting into a lava lake. That shouldn’t be a concept too difficult to understand.
There is not one single industrial society running on geothermal energy. NOT ONE.
Now guess the reason why. And no, its not a conspiracy of the evil fossil fuel conglomerates.
The eaeth’s climate has been changing since it was formed, and a few times biological life forms caused the changes in climate, and they led to mass extinctions.
The difference between us humans and apex life forms that went extinct in the past is that we actually have the capacity of understanding what we are doing to the environment, and could do something about it. The human induced climate change is also happening at a much steeper rate than anything that came before.
Every power generation method is limited by suitable sites and water supply if it involves turning a steam generator, but geothermal energy is not limited by fuel like the others, since the earth is more than capable of heating water to 100°C when you dig down at a geothermal site. People are just looking for sites that can make the steam go super critical so they can push the generator more efficiently.
Uh oh one of these guys .
Good thing we build our nuclear reactors from plant-based, recyclable materials, then. And Uranium grows on trees and doesn’t require mining, luckily ![]()
Yes, one of those guys who was already around when the infamous Club of Rome predicted that the earth’s environment would collapse once humanity grew beyond 4-5 billion people.
Guess how many of us are now living on this planet?
Not-a-single-one or your doomsday predictions has ever come true. And its becoming tiresome having to listen to them.
Then maybe you should learn about snowball earths, the carboniferous period and permian extinction
These things can happen very quickly, and indeed we see climate change happening quicker than most models expected, so quickly we can physically perceive it ourselves.
And mere decades for humans to level many forests.
Humans are the problem.
Where did I claim that it would?
I wrote that the amount of energy transported to the surface is limited and thus finite. Because otherwise the earth’s crust be melting and everyone be engulfed by a lava lake.
That also means that geothermal energy is not scalable. And therefore it is not suitable to power an entire industrial economy. Its a niche product, like all forms of “alternative energy”.
All this environmental nonsense is wrecking country after country in the Western world. Its an outright obsession of people hellbent on destroying the very foundation of an industrial society: Cheap, reliable energy
And that is where you complete lack of understanding of basic physics is showing. That “fuel” is the flow of energy from beneath the crust and I tried in vain to explain to you that that is very much limited.
Indeed its absolutely finite. Because there is no human technology available to influence that from the surface.