Give birth at a big hospital unless you want an unnecessary C section

Beautiful baby!! Congratulations!

C-sections are indeed overused because so many factors can be controlled for both practically and convenience. I have obstetrician friends both here and back home who confirm this.

As long as your wife is left to rest and the post-op is done well there is nothing to worry about. If you are against c-section for other reasons it is perfectly understandable but now focus your energy on your lovely baby and helping your wife to recover well. You can still try normal delivery with the next baby. The myth about you can only have c-sections after you already have one is already debunked and only true when there are scarring or other complications.

As for big hospitals here, if they have enough staff or if you don’t go to the most ā€˜famous’ one of their team, they most definitely will be ok to wait for the normal timing of delivery and have a natural one. They don’t push you to have a c-section Unless necessary. The difference between a clinic and a big hospital is comfort. Places like Taiwan Adventist Hospital have certain nicer ā€˜suites’ you can stay at but they are usually occupied so you will end up in a normal room with another mother and her baby.

I personally would never trade the security of a big hospital to the comfort of a small clinic. If anything goes wrong they have it all there. Clinics would have to transfer you to a big hospital, are focused solely on the doctors schedule, and are generally less staffed then a respectable hospital. They usually have 2 doctors on call , so if your doctor can’t make it there is another one. Big hospitals have more than 2.

Once again, enjoy your blessing of being a father and help your wife. That’s the best you can do for them.

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Hey, congratulation and thanks for sharing to us your new lovely little one.

Our first was born in a private clinic. They suggested C section a few times and we declined. They respected that. I was there with my wife by her side the entire time and cut the cord.

Our second was born at home with a midwife. Of course no C section. Was present the entire time.

C sections are pushed here a lot. As long as there really is no health risk for a natural birth, just push back, stand firm.

Our opinion is that the push for unnecessary C sections is all about $$$.

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Thank you all for your kind words.

She just opened her eyes!

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Who can resist such cute smile?
:star_struck:

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Congrats!

I am with you on clinics. I try to avoid them like the plague. Ours was taken to a big hospital after much searching and testing the doctors. Was happy with the doctors service, less so on nursing staff.

Ours couldnt come out. 4 days of extreme pain, mom couldnt open up enough. With waste material going into her lungs, they said must do c section. 1 terrifying month in ICU and all was well. I thank my lucky stars for the quality staff at that time. Was during a typhoon, flooding, eletricity was on and off…the works. Shaved a decade off my life im sure!

Finding a good , well equiped hospital i think is very important. Clinics are hit and miss. But even the good ones, i wouldnt want to have an emergency at.

Interesting note, i was not allowed in to cut or view. But may of been the situation, not the hospital.

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Smaller clinics are hit and miss. The bigger ones are better, but can get pricey.

Our first was born here: Dianthus

We were extremely happy with them. Lots of privacy for the mother, good doctors and amazing facilities.

I had big reservations about having our second at home. However my wife was set on it. So we did. Having a personal midwife was a great experience. Very personal and special.

It changed my mind about the absolute necessity of being at a hospital.

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2 family members are midwives in my country of birth. Love the idea. Havent personally seen it much in taiwan in that sense. I would love to hear more about your experience on finding, dealing with and all that if you are willing to share.

It is an idea i am quite fond of, but there are some serious considerations first.

First off, a very belated congratulations on the birth of your beautiful healthy girl (Sorry, I somehow missed this post 3 years ago lol :laughing:).

When my wife first got pregnant 5+ years ago, we also went to ę›œē”Ÿ for our checkups but we didn’t quite like the attitude of the male doctor who took our case. Yes, I understand they are very busy and crowded in the evenings and the doc was probably overworked and tired but you can do with a little smile and friendly banter instead of acting like a human robot. He kept pounding on the fact that my wife was too old to give birth (we were both 39+ at that time) cos she’s a é«˜é½”ē”¢å©¦ and was in danger of a miscarriage (This was her 4th pregnancy, her first with me and she already had 3 kids before with her ex). So he would always tell us to be safe, don’t lift heavy things, don’t sit in the same spot for more than 30 mins etc, don’t so strenous exercise which was nice of him but everytime we would see him at the appointment, he would be like ā€œOhh é«˜é½”ē”¢å©¦!! You should have given birth earlier blah blahā€ and of course, we didn’t feel it was necessary to tell him she already had 3 kids before with her ex-husband. On one occassion, when we were getting some medicines from the joint-pharmacy next door, the pharmacist insisted that we buy some supplements as it was good for someone who’s a é«˜é½”ē”¢å©¦. I was OK with that but my wife didn’t feel like taking those pills (there were like 100+ big pills and she had morning sickness so she felt like throwing up most of the time) and the pharmacist kept pushing her to buy and in the end, we bought it for like NT$3000. Went home and she had a change of heart and said she didn’t want to take those and asked me to return it. When we went back to return them, the guy was obviously not happy and reluctantly, took them back, gave us a refund and mumbled ā€œDon’t blame me if she has a miscarriage!!ā€ :rage:…A few weeks later, my wife suffered a miscarriage!

A few mths down the line, my wife got pregnant again…this time we decided to go to a smaller clinic…Doctor was an old guy, nice, warm & friendly but we sort of felt the place was not modern enough, equipments were old, beds not that clean etc. Sadly, my wife suffered another miscarriage 2 weeks later. :disappointed:

We decided to give her body more rest and almost a year later, she fell pregnant again and this time we decided to go to a big hospital after being recommended to me by my colleague, ęƒ ē”Ÿ(The one in Shulin)–> https://www.wsmombaby.com/. This facility was excellent, with great doctors (I highly recommend ęŽå­ 醫師 who was our on-call doctor…very warm and friendly, very professional and he had seen a lot of é«˜é½”ē”¢å©¦ā€™s so he wasn’t surprised at all). In the end, we had an uneventful pregnancy without any hiccups and my wife delivered my daughter naturally (as with her 3 other previous kids). I was allowed inside the delivery room dressed in a hospital gown and mask and was standing beside my wife all the time as she pushed the baby out. The doc cut the umbilical cord (didn’t ask me to cut) and I held my daughter a few moments later and took pics. Their maternity wards are also excellent as are the nurses. My Doctor did not force us into C-Sections and he insisted vaginal births are better but would do C-sections only in an emergency.

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I attended my sons birth in a private clinic in Taichung Taiwan. The doctor has also finished a degree at John Hopkins University. In 1991 it was rare for fathers to be allowed to attend births in Taiwan. Also the post natal care was in the clinic / hospital as it was setup for that. No NHI and I know we spent quite a lot probably NT$60k or more I really don’t remember I’ll ask. Moms always remember these things lol.

My son was there for his children being born and took photo’s as the child was born and placed on mothers chest. Both born in Sydney, same doctor.

My son was a natural birth 4.2kg and 54 cm in length to a small Taiwanese mother. His son’s were C section but full term pregnancy. The last one born 2 weeks ago 3.7kg and 52cm long. Born in Sydney. I’m off to see visit my new grandson this week.

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It’s my understanding that Taiwanese women prefer C-sections anyway, over natural birth. Hence the push by hospitals to go that route.

There is a push for c sections in other countries as well.

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There was something in the news about a hospital getting into trouble for pushing women to have c-section. Had to do with insurance money or something. It was a pretty big hospital from what I remember. I’m sure someone can find the article if they searched for it.

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I’ve mentioned before that my MOL encouraged/tried to make my wife to get a c section because she had paid for some private health insurance so it would be a waste not to use it. We were losing money. In her eyes. My wife was like I would rather not have a scar and have a quicker recovery than money.

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Some people make money from c-section as long as there is medical necessity. Some people have double or triple insurance, so can stand to gain a lot. Some clinics were known for being able to promise medically required c-sections. Those clinics were caught and tried to better their lives, but are still the most likely place to be told you need a c-section, especially if you wink at the doctor :wink:

We go to one of those clinics actually as the mom wants a c-section.

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Infuriating!
How dare they!

Nice doctor. Certainly not common attitude in Taiwan :slight_smile:

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