There are also about 156,000 PRC nationals who have become citizens by renouncing their household registration in China. And another 40,000 or so from Hong Kong who have acquired household registration and thus full citizenship. And another 300,000 or so nationals without household registration who have quietly become citizens also by obtaining household registration without renouncing. These figures are totals over the last three decades
But these are these not descendants of ROC citizens / Nationals? I know quite a few Philippines Chinese who had Taiwan passports but needed to live here to get tarc and then HHR and ID. Many of these did not have another citizenship elsewhere. Many lost souls stuck overseas on Taiwan national passports with no HHR and ID before. But they were already Taiwan nationals so no need for any renunciation. Just as my son became a Taiwan national outside of Taiwan. He also does not need to renounce his other citizenship. Same for the ABC’s that move here from the USA. Taiwan nationals with no HHR and ID.
Yes you cannot have HH in both countries due to some quirky politics. I could move to China and get a Hukou over there if I wanted. China in any case does not recognize dual citizenship. How would PRC deal with someone from Taiwan who already has multiple citizenships else where they did not know about?
They would only recognise the chinese citizenship. This happens with chinese who have a foreign parent too. However, they could also decide that the aquisition of chinese nationality is flawed and not recognise that instead… a case of whatever best suits China at that time.
You can also get temporary Chinese passports for travel to places like Russia… Just don’t go posting about it on social media like this guy
Bro, forget your folk, Americans ( All races , expect maybe abc, so on) are also in the black list here in those companies you mentioned as CEOs or top executives.
I agree; that’s why I used the term “immigrant”. Foreigners have very low chances of becoming top executives in Taiwanese companies (unless they are foreign branch/rep offices or co-founded by foreigners).
Another great report on this topic from Taiwan Plus. Will the current split government (DPP in the Executive; KMT/TPP controlling the Legislature) finally act?
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There are 11 comments on that video right now and 3 mention integration of the immigrant population. I’ve come to believe that’s the wrong approach. I can’t think of one instance of that working. The immigration models that work are more of a melting pot model. The immigrants shouldn’t feel like they’re inferior or that they should hide their cultural heritage.
Why do you associate integration with feeling inferior?
I’ve lived in five different countries for extended periods, and I’ve learned that integration is about being open to new things. Every new place has its own unique culture and customs, but that doesn’t mean you have to give up your roots.
If someone chooses to stay within an ethnic enclave, only interacting with others from their home country, they miss out on a lot of what the new place has to offer. Over time this can create a large divide.
I know a few of those who did not want to integrate. They could only achieve lower education. This leads to hardships and difficulty finding well paid jobs. Sometimes they end up on a criminal path out of frustration trying to earn more money.
Thanks for sharing. I didn’t even know it was published. Saw it first on Forumosa!
More than 130 comments below that video and counting…
Some commenters misunderstood or mixed migration, residency and nationality. Migration and residency is administered by visa and residency (APRC) policies. That is not being debated.
The current debate is not even about double nationality which is legal under Taiwanese law. It is purely about process clarity and fairness. Foreigner one can hand back his old nationality, get Taiwanese nationality and then directly get back his old nationality that was on standby. Foreigner B can’t do that. Taiwanese A can acquire (potentially) both nationalities of Foreigner A and Foreigner B without renunciation.
Obviously, nationality might (should) come with additional requirements compared to APRC. First and foremost probably language skills and then to let others live their life and not demand any action based on religious or ethnic background of the immigrant. So, catholics might not dance on Good Friday, but it might not make sense to prohibit dancing on Good Friday for anybody else. A question is also about military service and maybe there will be a little discussion about that.
that is not under discussion under the petition we lodged with the gov, there would be only one modification: allow APRC holders to naturalise without the renounciantion, everything else stays the same.
that has never been under discussion, Taiwan is a free country with freedom of religion and beliefs, no one can dictate otherwise, and the State is very free of religion (unlike many western countries, like Italy, deeply entrenched with Catholicism).
The law is clear, any male national with HHR in the Taiwan area must serve if below 36 years of age (medical and some family exemption are possible). Foreigners who naturalised have to and had to serve according to law. That is not going to change with our petition.