Going from Taiwan's Gold Card to Taiwanese Citizenship

The part about requiring a “certificate of no marriage” for an infant still gets me :joy:.

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Wow what a difficult process. I would have given up much earlier. Congrats on the citizenship.

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I also wanted my parents to be able to get permanent residency in Taiwan. One method is to open a business and hire them as country managers, which gives them 3 year renewable work visas. After 5 years they can apply for APRC. Your company needs to make over 1000萬 revenue a year to go this route. Otherwise I think you can hire them as specialists, but they have high salary requirements.

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It’s brilliant—perhaps the best thing I’ve read in 2023 so far.

Your account makes me admire your incredible tenacity, appreciate your even-handedness in describing this excruciating process—and also feel rage against the countless racist rules and attitudes embedded in the ROC-on-Taiwan’s bureauratic machinery. It’s infuriating that my tax dollars are paying for the operation of this machine.

Guy

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My man, you suffered so much, and unfortunately there will still be hurdles for you, but your motivation and tenacity won many incredible obstacles that TW bureaucracy placed in many “strategic” places.

I teared up at your pic with your daughter holding the new TW passports.

I cannot even remotely compare my experience in Taiwan so far to yours, but I can relate for a lot of those stupid things at teco, since I had some of the very same issues at teco HK when needed to verify and apply for things while living there and getting my own GC. But I played their game against them and got what I needed within the rules, with just some waiguoren twist haha.

Regarding SOP, at times as said, those can be used against them. You need to think like box-tickers. If you can tick the box, then you must advance. It requires enourmous amount of time and mental energy.

Anyways, you fought and won many battles SIR, now me must advance united to win the war and end this renounciation non-sense.

恭喜恭喜!

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I followed your story in real time as it happened, but it’s even more inspiring reading the entire saga tied together in one very well-written piece. Taiwan doesn’t deserve you! :bowing:

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Man, what an infinity saga you had to go through… I read about 1/3 of it and figured I had to hang my laundry in this cold weather… I promise I will read the entire thing soon. Wish you & your family the best. P.S: It’s great to finally put a face on this awesome storytelling stranger (who by now is no longer one in the eyes of us Forumosans! :+1:)

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I am glad that the process is (mostly) over for you. You may be the most patient and persevering person alive; you deserve a break. I hope that everything works out with your dad and your daughter.

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“As someone who’d already been to over thirty countries” dayum…

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A lot of beers and tears were spent as I wrote this over the last several weeks. Appreciate all the kind words. It means a lot. :pray:t2: :pray:t2:

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Wouldn’t Taiwan be suspicious of me hiring a retired English teacher and a housewife as managers? Still, worth looking into.

Thank you. I thought it would make more of an impact if I wasn’t anonymous. Though I am a bit nervous since I posted it. :sweat_smile:

It was because of an aggressive Chinese startup I was working for. They gave me free rein to go wherever I wanted, all paid for.

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It’s no different than any other work sponsorship. All that matters is you’re paying taxes to Taiwan. If they feel like it, they can help with bookkeeping and administration work.

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Nice position to be in.

Nope. They’re happy to take the money and take the tax revenue from it.

If you pay the tax, they don’t care.

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In the above huge post it’s obvious that Taiwan needs to do some work, their own government agencies refusing to accept Taiwan’s government issued documents.

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Just an update:

My wife was super excited with the story and insisted on posting it to Facebook. I was nervous someone would say something horrible about her or our daughter. But to my surprise, the response was overwhelmingly positive. The story slowly spread from Facebook to other social channels organically. It has 8000 views as of now. This is much more than I ever expected. Thank you :pray:

I think I have accomplished what I meant to do with that article. Create awareness and start a conversation.

But I do want to point out there’s still some resistance to critical viewpoints about Taiwan, even when it’s fair and done with good intentions.

My wife told me how her post was pending on one foreign group. Another one deleted it almost immediately and she had to post it again. The one place where it really took off was the Foreigners in Taiwan Facebook group. This morning they have removed it too, which is quite unfortunate. I only wanted to help other foreigners.

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Interesting that they’re all deleting it, what’s the justification?

Not that I frequent those Facebook groups, I like it here at Forumosa

Congrats to you on your success, you earned it, and thanks for sharing everything with us here. We appreciate it :slightly_smiling_face:

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In general, based on my experience with FB groups of foreigners in general (a bit different with specific nationality groups, like Italians in …) those are a bag full of “peculiar” human specimens. Can’t read their posts at all. Better not getting in there tbh, I like the flob better.

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Same here.

No idea. Doesn’t matter though. My work is done.

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well, tell this to the many, many people from say HK (another passport which come with residence and perks in China, which seems to be very valuable to you), who are now emigrating in droves to Canada to get this allegedly worthless booklet. Canadian passport is a safe haven and gives you access to many countries visa-free, would not bash it like this.

Taiwanese passport is good, but for sure not better than the Canadian one for travel, besides China (in particular if you are NWHOR), but I would not travel there too often tbh in these times.