# Got into an argument with a bus driver **URL:** \ **Category:** General Legal Matters\ **Created:** [October 25, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590 "2023-10-25T00:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:20am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/61 "2023-10-25T02:20:53Z")
OP You have been on forumosa now since 2010, right? If I were you, I’d practice the words _paisei paisei_ (spoken sincerely while looking at the ground), and get ready to pay up if needed. Good luck. Guy ---
**Author:** ![Wai](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/bcef8e/32.png) [@Wai](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Wai)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/62 "2023-10-25T02:21:07Z")
> [@springonion](#): > > The public insult clause in the Criminal Code stipulates a punishment of “short-term imprisonment” or a fine of up to NT$9,000. This part is really the key. If prosecutors decide to try to convict you this is the maximum penalty. The only way you’ll end up in prison is if you don’t have 9000nt to your name, but it’s unlikely to be that high. The other issue is if the driver tries to sue you in civil court. Here payments can be higher, as with @Marco and his 30,000nt payout? My understanding is that you have some cause to counter sue for wrongful imprisonment if he tries this, and then things will drag on through the courts and mediation. This isn’t not really useful for anyone, so I would guess it’s unlikely but not impossible that you’ll end up in civil court having to make some sort of payment. As with all legal matters, best to consult with a lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/63 "2023-10-25T02:22:48Z")
> [@afterspivak](#): > > If I were you, I’d practice the words _paisei paisei_ (spoken sincerely while looking at the ground), and get ready to pay up if needed. Nope he will have to kneel and cry and beg forgiveness to make it a sincere apology. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/64 "2023-10-25T02:23:36Z")
I doubt the OP will be on television or running for public office, so no need to take things that far. Guy ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/65 "2023-10-25T02:23:49Z")
Isnt it normal to try and open the doors if I want to get off the bus? ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/66 "2023-10-25T02:23:59Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > He stopped the bus in the middle of the street, got out, walked back to the bus stop and stood inches from my face and cursed at me in a very aggressive manner. That’s when you are supposed to pull out your phone. ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/67 "2023-10-25T02:24:22Z")
Yeah, that was a mistake on my part. But surely the internal bus cameras would show him stopping illegally and getting off the bus. ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/68 "2023-10-25T02:25:39Z")
> [@Wai](#): > > as with @Marco and his 30,000nt payout? I agreed to $25000. Settled out of court. Agreed to not file charges. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/69 "2023-10-25T02:27:36Z")
> [@BiggusDickus](#): > > Go to the bus depot with an expensive bottle of whiskey and apologies? He might be reasonable. Everybody has a bad day. Make it right. Liquor him up and have him sign something Marcos lawyer has prepared! ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/70 "2023-10-25T02:28:13Z")
> [@Mr\_PBH](#): > > something Marcos lawyer has prepared No need to bring the Philippines into this. :rofl: Guy ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/71 "2023-10-25T02:28:45Z")
> [@afterspivak](#): > > > [@Mr\_PBH](#): > > > > something Marcos lawyer has prepared > > No need to bring the Philippines into this. :rofl: > > Guy President of the Philippines would have the perfect name if he just removed one letter. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/72 "2023-10-25T02:29:10Z")
Either way, there’s no apostrophe! ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/73 "2023-10-25T02:29:45Z")
Surely doing nothing is best in this case? I hope the police told him that he wasn’t allowed to detain me on the bus. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/74 "2023-10-25T02:29:52Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Yes, but he also threatened me in public, which I’m assuming is also a crime. he was slandering you in public, which is also an offense here I reckon. Just say you file a case against him for slander and also that he pushed you. THATS how it works in Taiwan. Fire with fire because it costs so little to file a case. Say you’ll file if they aren’t willing to drop it ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/75 "2023-10-25T02:30:25Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Surely doing nothing is best in this case? I hope the police told him that he wasn’t allowed to detain me on the bus. That’s why you need to call the lawyer. The best would be to have the lawyer say if you drop it I will drop it. It SEEMS like you both have dirt on each other. Let’s not throw the dirt and nobody gets dirty. ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/76 "2023-10-25T02:30:50Z")
Yes, there’s video footage of him putting his hands on me. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:31am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/77 "2023-10-25T02:31:54Z")
Never mind the other immature ppl laughing at your expense here , you actually have a good case to get them to drop it once he put his hands on you and also chewing you up in public . You may need a lawyer to request the video footage for you before it goes ‘missing’. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:31am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/78 "2023-10-25T02:31:56Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Isn’t it normal to try and open the doors if I want to get off the bus? No. Not in any country. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/79 "2023-10-25T02:33:12Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Yes, there’s video footage of him putting his hands on me. Wasn’t that after you tried to use the controls in the bus. _I then tried to push the door opening button and he physically wrestled me off the controls._ ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/80 "2023-10-25T02:33:52Z")
Ok so don’t wait for him to file something first? [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590.md?page=3) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590.md?page=5)