# Got into an argument with a bus driver **URL:** \ **Category:** General Legal Matters\ **Created:** [October 25, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590 "2023-10-25T00:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/81 "2023-10-25T02:34:06Z")
> [@Marco](#): > > The best would be to have the lawyer say if you drop it I will drop it. > > It SEEMS like you both have dirt on each other. Let’s not throw the dirt and nobody gets dirty. Yup ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/82 "2023-10-25T02:34:11Z")
Of course not. Get your ducks in a row and call the lawyer for a consultation ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/83 "2023-10-25T02:34:23Z")
No, he put his hands on before I got on the bus. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/84 "2023-10-25T02:34:39Z")
Actively communicate through the lawyer with them to stop it going to court. mediation or just drop it ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:36am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/85 "2023-10-25T02:36:54Z")
Ok, but what if theyre not planning to do that in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/86 "2023-10-25T02:37:13Z")
It doesn’t mean don’t be prepared! ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/87 "2023-10-25T02:37:15Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > No, he put his hands on before I got on the bus. He was probably praying for you. However that is not what you wrote initially. Your story keeps getting more added to it as it goes along. ---
**Author:** ![cdn1234](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/cdn1234/32/202817_2.png) [@cdn1234](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/cdn1234)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/88 "2023-10-25T02:38:45Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Ok, but what if theyre not planning to do that in the first place? sounds like a question that would be just stellar to ask a lawyer which btw is what you should be doing rn. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/89 "2023-10-25T02:39:52Z")
> [@DogmaticStoic](#): > > I just realized that refusing to open the bus doors might also be false imprisonment/kidnapping? Not sure how the law works here still though. But typically physically refusing to let someone leave could be construed as kidnapping. yes but driver is driving and should open the doors while in motion. Or he should open the doors so you can exit and be hit my a passing vehicle or cyclist. Passengers don’t have the right to open the doors. ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/90 "2023-10-25T02:41:30Z")
> [@crusher](#): > > So is it legal to call someone ugly in private ? Yes, as long as it’s a private place (like your own home) where a member of the public wouldn’t have been able to access. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/91 "2023-10-25T02:43:42Z")
OP, just call Marco’s guy and gtho of this thread. You’re two posts away from being fully prosecuted and publicly shamed by armchair expat lawyers! ![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/c/9/c9c14b7bfa7b45a5e58abe15ada99ef10a6679ad.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/92 "2023-10-25T02:43:47Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Ok, but what if theyre not planning to do that in the first place? He meant to be prepared _in case_ the driver wants to sue you. But DO NOT initiate legal action against him! ---
**Author:** ![Southernboy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/southernboy/32/126619_2.png) [@Southernboy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Southernboy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/93 "2023-10-25T02:51:53Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Ok, so how likely is it that this guy takes legal action? Maybe it’s out of his hands. The police or the bus company will push it through, who knows. The finger ain’t shit, imo. Attempting to flee when the police were called. Attempting to operate the bus. Placing hands on bus driver. Those are troublesome. Then there’s the other passengers on the bus watching you wrestle with the driver. Get a lawyer. Stay off social media. Nobody here can help you. ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/94 "2023-10-25T02:53:33Z")
Ok called Marco’s guys. I got told 2 things. First, the driver can’t file something because he also committed a crime, i.e. assault, unlawful detention. Second go to the police and ask them to download the video footage, so that I have leverage in case he files something. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/95 "2023-10-25T02:56:04Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Ok called Marco’s guys. I got told 2 things. First, the driver can’t file something because he also committed a crime, i.e. assault, unlawful detention. > > Second go to the police and ask them to download the video footage, so that I have leverage in case he files something. The bus driver can file. Lawyer can give you bad advice as well. Anyone can file a complaint. Whether or not he does is another matter. Lawyers only advise based on what you tell them which can be different from video evidence or the others persons statements. We only have what you write. Which could be incomplete or inaccurate. Be interesting to see if any complaints are filed. Seems the police are not interested in your silly spat with the bus driver. One that you instigated. ---
**Author:** ![BiggusDickus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/biggusdickus/32/90381_2.png) [@BiggusDickus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BiggusDickus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/96 "2023-10-25T02:59:25Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Ok called Marco’s guys. I got told 2 things. First, the driver can’t file something because he also committed a crime, i.e. assault, unlawful detention. > > Second go to the police and ask them to download the video footage, so that I have leverage in case he files something. I think there’s a miscommunication here. He can’t file, yet you need to be prepared if he does file? ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/97 "2023-10-25T02:59:53Z")
> [@BiggusDickus](#): > > > [@ninman](#): > > > > Ok called Marco’s guys. I got told 2 things. First, the driver can’t file something because he also committed a crime, i.e. assault, unlawful detention. > > > > Second go to the police and ask them to download the video footage, so that I have leverage in case he files something. > > I think there’s a miscommunication here. > > He can’t file, yet you need to be prepared if he does file? Can’t in this case would be in the context of shooting himself in the foot too. Not in the sense of being physically unable to The best thing to say would be ‘It’d be a bad idea for him to try anything’ ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/98 "2023-10-25T03:01:18Z")
> [@Marco](#): > > Can’t in this case would be in the context of shooting himself in the foot too. An opinion based on what the OP has written. No one has seen the video. The lawyer has not spoken with the bus driver . ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/99 "2023-10-25T03:01:34Z")
yeah that’s fair. ---
**Author:** ![TaipeiGuy2000](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/taipeiguy2000/32/155716_2.png) [@TaipeiGuy2000](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TaipeiGuy2000)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/100 "2023-10-25T03:02:57Z")
My not legal advice would be to go to the police station and amend your statement. Say you were shocked and may have made a mistake and you realized you probably did show him your middle finger. Hopefully for you, the driver has as much to lose as you in regards to robbing you of your freedom. Standing in front of you and shouting in your face in a threatening manner is not a crime necessarily. Chances are that you will not hear anything anymore, but if you do, you can file a counter claim. Whatever happens, just admit and be contrite and pay the fine. And do ask for the footage. [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590.md?page=4) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590.md?page=6)