# Got into an argument with a bus driver **URL:** \ **Category:** General Legal Matters\ **Created:** [October 25, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590 "2023-10-25T00:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/125 "2023-10-25T04:26:40Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > Isn’t there some Israeli guy who reportedly went krav maga on someone and is in jail for robbery? Can find that chap in this group > **[Log in to Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/groups/1586833991614876)** > > Log in to Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family and people you know. ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/126 "2023-10-25T04:27:29Z")
Yeah, it was a very stupid thing to do, no argument there. I did my best to tell the story as accurately as possible. ---
**Author:** ![comfy123](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/comfy123/32/258242_2.png) [@comfy123](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/comfy123)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/127 "2023-10-25T04:38:01Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > I did my best to tell the story as accurately as possible. Oh that’s good but… > [@ninman](#): > > I told him I lifted my hand up in frustration, but didn’t show my middle finger. If they find out I did I’ll say I misremembered it in the heat of the moment, and I was upset so I wasn’t thinking clearly. ---
**Author:** ![Whatevah](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Whatevah](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Whatevah)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/128 "2023-10-25T04:42:51Z")
> [@anon24369109](#): > > > [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > > > Isn’t there some Israeli guy who reportedly went krav maga on someone and is in jail for robbery? > > Can find that chap in this group > > [Redirecting...](https://www.facebook.com/groups/1586833991614876) Lol. How is that a thing? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/129 "2023-10-25T04:44:49Z")
> [@Whatevah](#): > > Lol. How is that a thing? Seeing other foreigners fail makes some foreigners feel superior. It’s like the mean girls in junior high. ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:49am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/130 "2023-10-25T04:49:11Z")
So basically, it’s very unlikely he will file, and even if he does I’ve got plenty of leverage to make him drop it. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/131 "2023-10-25T04:52:27Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > So basically, it’s very unlikely he will file, and even if he does I’ve got plenty of leverage to make him drop it. He might just be like some of the posters here who will write and say stop wasting my time lol. Fact is you instigated an incident and now want to be known as the victim. If you really think you were assaulted then you should press charges, If you believe you were publicly insulted then sue. Write to the bus company asking them asking for the video from the bus. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:59am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/132 "2023-10-25T04:59:20Z")
> [@Marco](#): > > @afterspivak please quit causing trouble Yes me and @Taiwan_Luthiers , we are an unstoppable force of chaos everywhere we go! :rofl: Guy ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:59am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/133 "2023-10-25T04:59:32Z")
I never said I thought I was a victim. I’m just trying to prepare myself for the impending trouble. Im aware it’s pretty much my fault for a number of reasons, but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be ready to defend myself. ---
**Author:** ![Niurou](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/0ea827/32.png) [@Niurou](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Niurou)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/135 "2023-10-25T05:27:16Z")
Nothing to add except posting something like this on a public message board probably wasn’t the best idea since the story is obviously recognizable to anyone who wants to look it up, such as cops, a bus company, or an irate driver. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![ninman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a5b964/32.png) [@ninman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ninman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:30am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/136 "2023-10-25T05:30:11Z")
Yeah ill delete it soon. ---
**Author:** ![chianuo](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/chianuo/32/173405_2.png) [@chianuo](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/chianuo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:35am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/137 "2023-10-25T05:35:59Z")
> [@comfy123](#): > > But if there is video evidence… Not only that but if the video evidence confirms OP is a liar… ---
**Author:** ![chianuo](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/chianuo/32/173405_2.png) [@chianuo](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/chianuo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/138 "2023-10-25T05:37:55Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > I did my best to tell the story as accurately as possible Except the part where you lied about doing something that can be a criminal offence in Taiwan and carry fines or jail time… lol Pray to all the gods you know that the bus driver decides to drop it. This will not end well for you when the police catch you in a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/139 "2023-10-25T05:42:40Z")
> [@ninman](#): > > Yeah ill delete it soon. What did I say way upstream? Ask a moderator if it comes to that. Btw, I’d have said I flipped off the bus not the driver. “I didn’t even see the driver. I just knew I missed the bus. I was really flipping off my bad luck.” ---
**Author:** ![Wai](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/bcef8e/32.png) [@Wai](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Wai)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/140 "2023-10-25T06:16:24Z")
Here’s a side story about lying to the police in Taiwan. I was involved in a scooter accident. A woman came careering the wrong way out of a one way street clipped the back of my scooter and fell off and hurt herself rather badly. She told police that she hadn’t driven out of the one way street, but had come from a different angle. When I was making my statement at the police station they had already had CCTV footage of the accident showing that this was a lie. When I pointed out that the woman had lied about it in her written and signed statement it was brushed off. “Everyone lies sometimes in the heat of the moment”, is what I was told by the police officer. In summary OP, I think you’ll probably be fine. Someone equating flipping the bird to a bus with drunk driving and killing a man is absurd. You’ve done the sensible thing and got a lawyer, and you haven’t lied in any signed statements. You can probably just move on with your life. ---
**Author:** ![crusher](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/crusher/32/235005_2.png) [@crusher](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/crusher)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/141 "2023-10-25T06:45:53Z")
> [@BigDave](#): > > Yer, it was rather silly to stop the bus. Stopping in the road with other passengers onboard because someone annoyed him. Very silly of the bus driver. > > Flipping the bird is stupid. And getting on the same bus is pretty ridiculous. > > However, if the bus driver really shouted in your face etc, and it went down the way you say, I’d be wanting the bottle of whiskey from him, not buying one for him. I can’t watch all this talking about bottles of whiskey I just quit drinking it due to GERD. I I keep seeing comments about whiskey giving it’s giving me thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![Malasang88](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/malasang88/32/156935_2.png) [@Malasang88](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Malasang88)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:06am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/142 "2023-10-25T07:06:57Z")
> [@Mr\_PBH](#): > > Btw, I’d have said I flipped off the bus not the driver. “I didn’t even see the driver. I just knew I missed the bus. I was really flipping off my bad luck.” One thing I’ve always wondered about this public insult law is where is the line. Can I just ask a question like ‘are you stupid’? I’m not actually saying you are stupid, but I want to know. Or ‘Do you know how to drive?’. How about - 'Can you go fuck yourself '? I’m not saying you should, but might be helpful if you could. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:14am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/143 "2023-10-25T07:14:52Z")
> [@Malasang88](#): > > How about - 'Can you go fuck yourself '? I’m not saying you should, but might be helpful if you could. People have been charged for just using “fuck” as an expletive…not even directed at someone. Not much room for nuance. ---
**Author:** ![Malasang88](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/malasang88/32/156935_2.png) [@Malasang88](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Malasang88)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:15am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/144 "2023-10-25T07:15:59Z")
> [@Dr\_Milker](#): > > People have been charged for just using “fuck” as an expletive…not even directed at someone. Not much room for nuance. I think I heard about that case. Didn’t the guy win because they proved fuck can be used an adjective and doesn’t have to be an insult? ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590/145 "2023-10-25T07:16:03Z")
> [@Dr\_Milker](#): > > > [@Malasang88](#): > > > > How about - 'Can you go fuck yourself '? I’m not saying you should, but might be helpful if you could. > > People have been charged for just using “fuck” as an expletive…not even directed at someone. Not much room for nuance. But that was proven in court as not a public insult. [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590.md?page=6) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/got-into-an-argument-with-a-bus-driver/234590.md?page=8)