[quote=“Got To Be Kidding”][quote=“Jaboney”][quote=“bigduke6”]Wheres Murubak when you need him? He did keep the truce for around 30 years or so.
The unfortunate truth is that most middle eastern countries need a strongman in charge to keep militant islam in check. Democracy does not seem to work in many of these countries. If Egypt cannot secure its borders Israel will have to.[/quote]
:lol: :roflmao:Thanks for that lesson in imaginative history.
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Actually, he’s right.
So far, we have seen successful democracy nowhere in the Middle East except Israel. You cannot have democracy without good, untainted, universal education. Palestinian democracy has failed precisely because the system set up by the Oslo accords was corrupted.
Democracy requires universal education - where they teach peace, among other things.
And yes, if Egypt cannot secure it’s borders, Israel will need to do so - which might include occupying a ‘buffer zone’ in the Sinai.[/quote]GTBK -
Quite right in your brief analysis. A very complicated, obviously, situation with no short simple answers.
Israel is the only place in the ME where any successful attempt at representative democracy has occurred. Interestingly, this has happened in a state that founded upon a religious belief. A belief that has provided acceptance, integration and guarantee of equality for all its citizens.
There are some big camels noses under the tent in this - Syria, Iran, the Muslem Brotherhood(remember that name) and Mohammedanism. All conspire to annihilate Israel. Israel still survives.
I suggest doing a search on the writer Caroline Glick for timely info on the situation. She is well versed in the events in the ME from both a both historical perspective and current actions.
Caroline Glick on Thursday’s terror attacks
Blood in the Streets
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"In a sharp departure from Mubarak’s policies, the ruling military junta opened Egypt’s border with Gaza and so gave local and regional jihadists the ability to freely traverse the international border.
Hamas and its fellow terrorists have used this freedom not only to steeply expand the missile and personnel transfers to the Gaza Strip. They have also escalated their challenge to Egyptian regime control over Sinai.
Over the past several months, in addition to recurrent bombings of the gas pipeline, these forces have attacked police stations and the port at Nueiba. In the wake of their July 30 attack on El-Arish in which two policemen and three civilians were killed, jihadist cells distributed leaflets calling for the imposition of Islamic law on Sinai.
According to media reports, jihadists also took over many of the main highways in Sinai at the beginning of August.
THESE LATEST assaults and the open challenge the leaflets and road takeovers pose to Egyptian state authority caused the military to deploy two battalions of armored forces to Sinai last weekend.
The stated aim of their operation is to defeat the al-Qaida-affiliated jihadist cells operating in the peninsula. Since Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel prohibits the deployment of Egyptian military forces to Sinai, the Egyptian military regime requested and received Israeli permission for the deployment.
It is unclear how effective the latest Egyptian military deployment had been until Thursday’s cross-border attacks on Israel had been. What is clear enough is that Israel cannot expect to receive serious cooperation from the Egyptian military in combating the enemy forces emanating from Sinai. Indeed, at this point it is impossible to rule out the possibility that Egyptian military personnel participated in the murderous attacks.
Passengers in one of the civilian cars attacked by gunmen in the first stage of the operation told the media that their attackers were wearing Egyptian army uniforms.
Almost immediately after the attacks took place, Egyptian military authorities denied the attackers entered Israel from Sinai. These denials signaled that the Egyptian military government will not assist Israel in its efforts to defend itself against the rapidly escalating threats it now faces from Sinai.
And this is not surprising. Since it overthrew Mubarak, the ruling military junta has assiduously cultivated close ties with the politically ascendant Muslim Brotherhood."[/quote]
From reports, the Egyptian military in this area are allowing the terrorists to engage in their activities if not actively assisting them.
