Have APRC by marriage and having an affair

OK, so I’m not gonna say I’m asking for a friend…my spouse is Taiwanese and I’m having an affair. Can I be deported if found out and if that is what my spouse wants?
Haven’t been found out yet, but who knows…

I doubt they would deport you if you have an APRC.

You will be offered 1 year in jail or to buy your way out of jail. Your wife might also ask for some $$ and if you happen to have a kid then you can kiss him/her goodbye.

Your naughty mistress will got a similar punishment. Hopefully she isn’t married or it will cost you an arm and a leg!

I really doubt you could get deported for banging some pus***s!

But who knows, in some countries where the religion of peace prevail, you would be beheaded!

Being deported is not the issue. It’s being banned from reentry.

Adultery is a criminal matter so if you are convicted you risk jail time and a reentry ban. All foreigners now convicted of a crime face this. It’s not a court decision but immigration and you can only appeal once you are out of the country.

It’s no big deal if you plan on never leaving Taiwan. Ever.

So my mistress isn’t married and not Taiwanese. Does this make any difference? How much would one need to buy oneself out of jail?

So if I leave Taiwan I’ll be banned from reentering?

If convicted of a crime yes. It’s not a guarantee as immigration has discetion to enforce the procedure or not. Can’t seevwhy they wouldn’t for adultery.

Could be a 1-3 year ban.

Furthermore, is a conviction automatic cause for having APRC revoked? Plus that new law added regarding “attempting against morals” and such, to boot?

Yeah, that’s what I want to know as well…

Remember we were discussing that a few days ago, that basically the first five years you have nationality you can lose it with stuff like this? I think APRC also has that danger.

Just for future reference, guys, unfortunately, if under divorce threat/process, you have to live the life of a monk -and as the saying says, the wife of Caesar must not only be caste but look caste. The latter portion, in youse guys case, is the most important. Any evidence will be used against you. And you will lose everything: properties, money, residence, children, and most vital, peace of mind, faith in humanity, your desire to live/love…

Just found this, and somewhat relieved: islandsidechronicles.wordpress. … in-taiwan/

And in particular, this in that link "In the courts, adultery is difficult to prove. The defendant must be shown (in pics or video) to be definitely having sex with someone other than their spouse, BUT evidence got without knowledge of the people in the video can be dismissed as illegal evidence.

Funny thing here, if you are charged for taping or photographing someone without their knowledge or consent, you get something like 3 years behind bars. Not only that, your footage cannot be used in court because it was illegally obtained. Added to that, the penalty for adultery is only 1 year – why would anyone risk it?

So no secretly videotaping your spouse for evidence. There have been cases where infidelity has obviously been going on, but because of lack of (legally procured) hard evidence, the adulterer gets away, but the spouse who videotaped the affair gets thrown in jail.

End result – you need hard evidence to convict for adultery, but it’s very difficult to obtain, short of asking the couple to make a nice sex tape for you. Good luck with that!"

Can I hear a “whew” somewhere? :slight_smile:

Just don’t temp fate. Agreed it is difficult, but hell hath no fury … and all that jazz.

As I said, the “seeming” part is more important. Just don’t get caught… on tape. The law is not on your side. Cross your t’s and dot your i’s. This is war. There will be casualties.

No whew yet. It is not over until the fat lady sings.

I think someone here mentioned something like 1000nt$ ~ 1500nt$ per day out of jail so in your case 365 days. So it shouldn’t cost you more than a cheap Nissan!

I hope your mistress is also aware of the risks she is taking! Better wire her money abroad and get a suitcase ready for departure at anytime!

Sounds like mission impossible to prove adultery!

What about sexting?! If you happen to send fancy photos of your private parts to your darling, isn’t enough of an evidence to prove adultery?! Same with SMS mentioning a sex date at a motel.

How about just getting a divorce? Then you can seek the relationships you want, as can your wife, and next time you enter into something long-term, you can do so with the expressed understanding that monogamy is not your thing?
Living with the threat of the guillotine is a horrible thing. Also, cognitive dissonance steals energy from other pursuits. Non-monogamy is becoming a more accepted option. Why keep your wife in a situation she wouldn’t choose if she knew the truth?

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Totally agree. Separate and then move on.

I don’t understand why the OP hasn’t mentioned any consideration of separating. I once new a guy who preferred to sleep with women who were either married or in a relationship. He would also openly flirt with his students (especially the ones already in relationships) - he was a part time lecturer at a UK university. He would even walk around campus with his new girlfriends in hand. I guess it was some kind of kick or adrenaline rush for him. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

I don’t think you can only get in trouble if there is legally acquired evidence of sexual intercourse. In the blog you read there is a link at the very bottom of the page to this TT article: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2013/05/21/2003562814 which clearly shows that someone can get jail time without being caught in bed having the right kind of sex.

“Meanwhile, the court said that although Hsiao and Yang were not caught red-handed, the evidence gathered from their Facebook conversations was enough to prove that their affair was real.”

Like other posters said, how about a divorce? Having an affair is really draining and in the end messes up your self-esteem. It’s just not worth it, if you ask me.

Yeah, that’s what I want to know as well…[/quote]

Remember we were discussing that a few days ago, that basically the first five years you have nationality you can lose it with stuff like this? I think APRC also has that danger.

Just for future reference, guys, unfortunately, if under divorce threat/process, you have to live the life of a monk -and as the saying says, the wife of Caesar must not only be caste but look caste. The latter portion, in youse guys case, is the most important. Any evidence will be used against you. And you will lose everything: properties, money, residence, children, and most vital, peace of mind, faith in humanity, your desire to live/love…[/quote]

Just found this, and somewhat relieved: islandsidechronicles.wordpress. … in-taiwan/

And in particular, this in that link "In the courts, adultery is difficult to prove. The defendant must be shown (in pics or video) to be definitely having sex with someone other than their spouse, BUT evidence got without knowledge of the people in the video can be dismissed as illegal evidence.

Funny thing here, if you are charged for taping or photographing someone without their knowledge or consent, you get something like 3 years behind bars. Not only that, your footage cannot be used in court because it was illegally obtained. Added to that, the penalty for adultery is only 1 year – why would anyone risk it?

So no secretly videotaping your spouse for evidence. There have been cases where infidelity has obviously been going on, but because of lack of (legally procured) hard evidence, the adulterer gets away, but the spouse who videotaped the affair gets thrown in jail.

End result – you need hard evidence to convict for adultery, but it’s very difficult to obtain, short of asking the couple to make a nice sex tape for you. Good luck with that!"

Can I hear a “whew” somewhere? :slight_smile:[/quote]

I don’t think you can only get in trouble if there is legally acquired evidence of sexual intercourse. In the blog you read there is a link at the very bottom of the page to this TT article: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2013/05/21/2003562814 which clearly shows that someone can get jail time without being caught in bed having the right kind of sex.

“Meanwhile, the court said that although Hsiao and Yang were not caught red-handed, the evidence gathered from their Facebook conversations was enough to prove that their affair was real.”

Like other posters said, how about a divorce? Having an affair is really draining and in the end messes up your self-esteem. It’s just not worth it, if you ask me.[/quote]

Just as well I don’t have a Facebook account and anyway, her Facebook account is a bogus one. Discretion is high on the agenda, especially from my side. It helps also, that my wife is constantly out with her friends and family which leaves me time for my trysts. I guess I wouldn’t be engaging in this type of behaviour had I not been begging for her attention for over five years. And now I have someone who’s very attentive and hot to boot. Sad story that it had to come to this though.

why don’t you just split up then if things are not going well? then you can bang whoever you like, with the added benefit of not having to worry about covering your tracks or going to jail, small things like that…

That’s coming soon. Financial matters prevent that presently. Weird thing is, my spouse reckons she loves me and sends lovey dovey LINE messages to me but there’s never any action! I can’t be THAT bad since my mistress…well, let’s just say she’s VERY talented and appreciates my “gifts” also, :slight_smile:

You might not have a FB account, but you do have a Forumosa account, don’t you? Better not forget to log out of Forumosa before your wife can access your computer. You are walking on thin ice. :wink: